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Thanks for the article and this interesting discussion.</div>
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Just a quick cultural point:</div>
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In the UK the descriptor 'public schools' refers to the type of education only the elite can pay for. Public schools are privately owned and are places that channel students to the top universities and where pupils are coached to be politicians and leaders
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The term 'state education' is used to describe the system that the majority of the population uses. It is free, underfunded and provides different levels of opportunity depending on area.</div>
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Just thought I would add that as cultural differences in language can sometimes make global broad sweep discussions trickier or more complex.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 22 June 2022 20:52<br>
<b>To:</b> PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Luci Attala <l.attala@uwtsd.ac.uk>; Laura Rival <laura.rival@qeh.ox.ac.uk>; dan baron <danbaronmst@hotmail.com>; Amanda Janoo <amanda@wellbeingeconomy.org>; Elizabeth Rahman <elizabeth.rahman@ctl.ox.ac.uk><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Sujit,
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<div>Thank you for your thoughtful response to my blog.  You raise BIG questions that need much more discussion!  I value Illich's critique of institutional education, the Zapatista approach to education, and think that "government" and the world of nation-states
 needs to be re-thought!  I look forward to considering some of these issues in our forthcoming webinar on Unitierra.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:41 AM Sujit.Sinha <<a href="mailto:sujit.sinha@apu.edu.in">sujit.sinha@apu.edu.in</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks for this article of yours. I am writing this letter to the whole group as I think there are some fundamental questions which might be of interest to everyone  in this
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">�</span></span><i><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">For the major existential problems the world faces today, we need another sea change, one that places governance in the hands of the public, of
 governments, of civil society and of a more participatory democracy.  Privatization is a scourge.  Climate and other environmental catastrophes, the pandemic, ongoing wars and violence, continued hunger, poverty, and inequality, rampant sexism and racism are
 not only not solvable by business but are<span style="color:rgb(126,126,126)"> </span><u><span style="color:rgb(237,28,36); border:1pt none windowtext; padding:0in"><a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnhuntpublishing.com%2Fzer0-books%2Four-books%2Fconscience-progressive&data=05%7C01%7Cl.attala%40uwtsd.ac.uk%7C58271e8afea7406b661f08da5488b882%7C4e0f11f9046e45059cb8db2152311e21%7C0%7C0%7C637915243436121010%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=soI52Rp%2FjHFEzWfXVQb1Hj7KRWZOcLRiBuc1nyLcFV8%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/zer0-books/our-books/conscience-progressive" shash="o7pb/PaaySsAvvZ49xcntp9ytsdtTa9FBINbM35f8goEYb6DxObiyYl2ekPB3jaBfswWHZm/Yz6FIcOKd2UFoBr7y/b0HYE+QTN1GdLxJBA5zsl393tIV+zplvNh0PC2mW5qii0rjwX1Fr+g+nB7Jjz0hpC47q241yWjQAiQlZU=" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(237,28,36)">exacerbated
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>1.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It seems  that you still have a lot of faith in �governments� , although you do mention civil society and more participatory democracy. Presumably you have some other form
 of �government � in mind and not the 190 odd Nation States of today , capitalist or socialist ( when they existed )  <span style="color:rgb(126,126,126)"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">While you have made your views very clear regarding this festering public vs private basic education debate, you do not seem to  critique �institutional education� ( public
 or private ) which Illich started so many years back. But you advocate for more funds, more professionals for �public primary education� which so many years back Illich had said is an inevitable outcome of liberal national  school educational reviews.   <span style="color:rgb(126,126,126)"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Incidentally in India both Gandhi and Tagore had experimented with education opposed to INDUSTRIALISM. All this  is relevant as very soon we are going to discuss Unitierra
 which owes a lot to Illich�s and Gustavo Esteva�s churnings on a different human destiny away from last two hundred years of spectacular industrial civilization , and the governments which have superbly coordinated this industrialism. The Zapatista movement
 is already experimenting with a very different school education which does not fall neatly in this public � private axis.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> GTA-PeDAGoG [mailto:<a href="mailto:gta-pedagog-bounces@lists.ourproject.org" target="_blank">gta-pedagog-bounces@lists.ourproject.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven J. Klees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <<a href="mailto:gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org" target="_blank">gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Luci Attala <<a href="mailto:l.attala@uwtsd.ac.uk" target="_blank">l.attala@uwtsd.ac.uk</a>>; dan baron <<a href="mailto:danbaronmst@hotmail.com" target="_blank">danbaronmst@hotmail.com</a>>; Laura Rival <<a href="mailto:laura.rival@qeh.ox.ac.uk" target="_blank">laura.rival@qeh.ox.ac.uk</a>>;
 Elizabeth Rahman <<a href="mailto:elizabeth.rahman@ctl.ox.ac.uk" target="_blank">elizabeth.rahman@ctl.ox.ac.uk</a>>; Amanda Janoo <<a href="mailto:amanda@wellbeingeconomy.org" target="_blank">amanda@wellbeingeconomy.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [PeDAGoG] my blog on UNESCO's GEM Report on the privatization of education<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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