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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This is about films on Rojava</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> and might be useful to many in the �group who discuss Rojava or would like to. Also if someone has more good films they can share. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The link that Laurence sent �. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyqG-71zOi0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyqG-71zOi0</a></span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> ('Accidental Anarchist - What is the Rojava .20 min ) : This is m</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>ore the personal experience of an British Anarchist-Rojava sympathizer. It is more about him than the Rojavas as he moves around filming. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We have found the following� film <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqo2MX3vf6M">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqo2MX3vf6M</a></span></span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It is 25 mins and made in 2019 to be �quite comprehensive . The commentary is in German with English subtitles <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Lots of interviews with women (also men ) both ordinary and those elected to councils and co-presidents. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It has the following scenes : Schools, use of 3 languages, Kurdish – Arabic - Syrian, a joint concert,� feminist revolution , women’s home, scenes of an actual dispute around women’s equality and polygamy, university class on jeneology,� references to fight with ISIS and Assad and Turkey,� graveyards, refugees , YPG ( Rojava army) women’s wing, social contract, protection of Christians, , ecological revolution, cooperative organic farming, Kobane with 100 house communes ,� women militia training, dam on Euphrates being squeezed of water by Turkey, women’s academy. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We have made a 16 min clip out of some other film ( forgotten to note the link) which we find to be quite useful to show in class . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>0 – 2:45 : women leader talking about rojava and the three enemies ( ISIS, Assad, Turkey) along with many street scenes <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>2:45 – 3:40 :� Judiciary council. Interview . cases of women—violence, marriage <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>3:40 – 5:00 : Reconciliation council ( with those who worked for ISIS) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>5:00 – 6:00 : Street people talking about diversity and tolerance <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>6:00 – 8:50 :� Scenes of Kobane . Battle. Loss. Rebuilding <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>8:50 – 10:50 :� Women’s Laws. Women’s House . Local communes solving most disputes. Only some going to judiciary .� Communes also preventing economic monopoly <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>10:50 – 12:40 : A Mural. Kobane’s burial ground. Women’s military wing <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>12:40 – 15:30 : School. 3 languages. Text book issues . Printing issues. Overcome propaganda to alienate Arabs. UNICEF refused to help unless Syrian state books followed !!! </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sujit <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> GTA-PeDAGoG [mailto:gta-pedagog-bounces@lists.ourproject.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Davis, Laurence<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 30, 2021 6:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ted Trainer <tedtrainertsw@gmail.com>; Hari DK <hari.coding@gmail.com>; David Barkin <dpbarkin@gmail.com>; Ariel Salleh <arielsalleh7@gmail.com>; Carlos Tornel <tornelc@gmail.com>; Tom Abeles <tabeles@gmail.com>; gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org; to: Radical Ecological Democracy list <radical_ecological_democracy@googlegroups.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PeDAGoG] The communitarian revolutionary subject, new forms of social transformation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>This is a very nice amination. Thank you for sharing it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Some of the following videos may also be useful for teaching purposes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyqG-71zOi0" id=LPlnk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyqG-71zOi0</a> ('Accidental Anarchist - What is the Rojava Revolution?')<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqlZOa7DMiU" id=LPlnk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqlZOa7DMiU</a> ('People Without Faces' - Documentary about the Zapatistas)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>...and my personal favourite...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPl_Y3Qdb7Y" id=LPlnk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPl_Y3Qdb7Y</a> ('Living Utopia: The Anarchists and the Spanish Revolution')<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>I use all of them in my third-year Government and Politics undergraduate module, 'Contemporary Ecological and Anti-Capitalist Politics', which I have taught for many years here at University College Cork, Ireland.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>The following readings on their module syllabus, useful for those new to the subject matter as well as more advanced readers, are also generally well received by the students:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>John Clark, <i>Between Earth and Empire </i>(PM Press, 2019) and <i>The Impossible Community</i> (Bloomsbury, 2013)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Murray Bookchin, <i>The Ecology of Freedom</i> (AK Press, 2005)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>David Graeber, <i>The Democracy Project </i>(Allen Lane, 2013)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Amadeo Bertolo, ‘Democracy and Beyond’, <i>Democracy and Nature</i>, Vol. 5, Issue 2, July 1999, also available at <a href="http://www.democracynature.org/vol5/bertolo_democracy.htm" id=LPlnk972077>www.democracynature.org/vol5/bertolo_democracy.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>William Morris, ‘Useful Work Versus Useless Toil’, in A.L. Morton (ed.), <i>Political Writings of William Morris</i> (Lawrence & Wishart, 1979)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>William Morris, <i>News from Nowhere </i>(1891)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Michael Robertson, <i>The Last Utopians: Four Late 19th Century Visionaries and Their Legacy</i> (Princeton University Press, 2018)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Ursula K. Le Guin, <i>The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia</i> (Harper & Row, 1974)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Laurence Davis and Peter Stillman (eds.), <i>The New Utopian Politics of Ursula K. Le Guin’s </i>The Dispossessed<i> </i>(Lexington Books, 2005)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Maria Mies and Vandana Shiva, <i>Ecofeminism</i> (Zed Books, 2014)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Leanne Betasamosake Simpson, <i>As We Have Always Done: Indigenous Freedom Through Radical Resistance</i> (University of Minnesota Press, 2017)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>George Orwell, <i>Homage to Catalonia</i> (1938)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Martha Ackelsberg, Free Women of Spain: Anarchism and the Struggle for the Emancipation of Women </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>(AK Press, 2004)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Sam Dolgoff (ed.), The Anarchist Collectives: Workers’ Self-Management in the Spanish Revolution 1936-1939 </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>(Black Rose Books, 1974)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Val�rie Fournier, ‘Utopianism and the cultivation of possibilities: grassroots movements of hope’, in Martin Parker (ed.), <i>Utopia and Organization</i> (Blackwell, 2002), 189-216<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Dylan Fitzwater, <i>Autonomy Is in Our Hearts: Zapatista Autonomous Government through the Lens of the Tsotsil Language </i>(PM Press, 2019)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Ashish Kothari et. al. (eds.), <i>Pluriverse: A Post-Development Dictionary</i> (Tulika Books, 2019)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Laurence Davis, ‘Anarchism’, in Vincent Geoghegan and Rick Wilford (eds.), <i>Political Ideologies: An Introduction</i> (Routledge, 2014), ch. 9<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Colin Ward, <i>Anarchism: A Very Short Introduction</i> (Oxford University Press, 2004)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Solidarity,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Laurence<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=3 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> GTA-PeDAGoG <<a href="mailto:gta-pedagog-bounces@lists.ourproject.org">gta-pedagog-bounces@lists.ourproject.org</a>> on behalf of Mofwoofoo <<a href="mailto:mofwoofoo@gmail.com">mofwoofoo@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2021 22:15<br><b>To:</b> Ted Trainer <<a href="mailto:tedtrainertsw@gmail.com">tedtrainertsw@gmail.com</a>>; Hari DK <<a href="mailto:hari.coding@gmail.com">hari.coding@gmail.com</a>>; David Barkin <<a href="mailto:dpbarkin@gmail.com">dpbarkin@gmail.com</a>>; Ariel Salleh <<a href="mailto:arielsalleh7@gmail.com">arielsalleh7@gmail.com</a>>; Carlos Tornel <<a href="mailto:tornelc@gmail.com">tornelc@gmail.com</a>>; Tom Abeles <<a href="mailto:tabeles@gmail.com">tabeles@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org">gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org">gta-pedagog@lists.ourproject.org</a>>; to: Radical Ecological Democracy list <<a href="mailto:radical_ecological_democracy@googlegroups.com">radical_ecological_democracy@googlegroups.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [PeDAGoG] The communitarian revolutionary subject, new forms of social transformation</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='border:solid #9C6500 1.0pt;padding:1.0pt 1.0pt 1.0pt 1.0pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#FFFEC8'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:red'>[EXTERNAL] </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:maroon'>This email was sent from outside of UCC.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am writing as a long time radical anarchist activist "on the ground". I am not a scholar, but I have read a lot over 55 years. While I view the article (The communitarian revolutionary subject, new forms of social transformation) worthwhile, it is nothing new at all. Anarchist literature and scholarship goes back to the 1860's when these same ideas were expressed. Anarchists have seen through the problem of hierarchies in gov't. and in general. I have submitted the 7 minute animation that I made in 2020 which explains a lot about organizing in a horizontal fashion: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywMhg604W8&t=5s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywMhg604W8&t=5s</a>. And how it might be the only way to eliminate once and for all corruption in governments. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Citizen participation a la transition towns initiatives, localization, collectivism, decentralization, deconsummerism, self-reliance, economies that promote the good of the whole, cooperation, respect for the environment, etc. are ideas whirling around throughout the internet and the world. And as I am sure it is clear to everyone in this group, that the current system of capitalism is the perfect recipe for suiciding the human race.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Meanwhile, as capitalism is collapsing or is being collapsed, there seems to be a rush to assert authoritarianism as soon as possible. And clearly the vaccine mandate and the pcr tests are ways to do this. But since the vaccine mandates will not go away no matter how hard the pushback is, they seem to have plan b ready to go: world-wide food shortages which would result in world-wide food riots and chaos, which will justify martial law and state of emergency declarations, which at least in the USA would empower FEMA to overstep the Constitution and do whatever they want due to the executive orders that give them total power. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To avoid this from happening, people need to check on where their area's food sources are coming from and if they will be available or not. And in this way, using google or duck, duck, go one can ascertain what really is happening and what is going to happen in these regards. And if food shortages are indeed imminent, alert the citizenry to prepare by storing up on rice, beans, lentils, grains, tins, and storing food in preserves and salt for perhaps 6 months and setting up programs for those who don't have a few hundred dollars to spend to be able to be prepared as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Finally, I am the founder of a mostly latino, artist, eco-community in Ecuador (<a href="http://chambalabamba.org">chambalabamba.org</a>, under construction) since 2012, and believe me, this is not the solution for the world. It takes years to get it going, most communities fail for lack of funds or cohesion, it is not for everybody, and it is a false hope for those who believe that this is the way, imho.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>