Fwd: Worldwide events on The Day We Fight Back
Anyone in the P2P community here organising events we can promote on the day? Kevin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: TheDayWeFightBack.org <[email protected]> Date: 7 February 2014 16:01 Subject: Worldwide events on The Day We Fight Back To: [email protected] Stand with us on TheDayWeFightBack. View this email in your browser<http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=c3cb582ac8&e=aa1fbdd564> Fight back: join or plan an event. This Tuesday, February 11th, thousands of websites are protesting online as part of the The Day We Fight Back<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=6900486767&e=aa1fbdd564> against mass surveillance. But they're also going to be protesting on the streets. Events are planned in cities worldwide, including in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, Copenhagen, Stockholm and more. *Find an event near you:* *View our **comprehensive list of events*<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=998c84a347&e=aa1fbdd564>to see if there's one near you. If there is, join up and take part. *Or plan one now:* If there are no events in your city, now is the time to organize one. *Check out our **guide to hosting an event*<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=f9599ae962&e=aa1fbdd564>*, and plan one locally.* Email us back and let us know if you're planning an event and we'll list it on the site. *And add the banner to your site now:* If you have a website and haven't added the code to your site yet, *now is the time*. The banner code is live on our website<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=342bbef5e6&e=aa1fbdd564>, grab it and add it to your site. We also have a special version of the banner<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=2e413aa32a&e=aa1fbdd564>that pushes people to call over email - the single most effective political action most people can make. Find that code here<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=97059f6cab&e=aa1fbdd564> . Together, we can tell governments around the world that mass surveillance is unacceptable. The Day We Fight Back team. *Copyright (c) 2014 TheDayWeFightBack.org, All rights reserved.* You are fighting against the NSA *Our mailing address is:* TheDayWeFightBack.org 30 Ritchie Ave Silver Spring, MD 20910 Add us to your address book<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/vcard?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=1732fb30c4> unsubscribe from this list<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=1732fb30c4&e=aa1fbdd564&c=c3cb582ac8> update subscription preferences<http://thedaywefightback.us3.list-manage.com/profile?u=d9b90a515aaab135428b797b1&id=1732fb30c4&e=aa1fbdd564>
On Friday, February 07, 2014 04:07:01 PM Kevin Flanagan wrote:
Anyone in the P2P community here organising events we can promote on the day?
Kevin
This is the first I've heard about it. What I find amazingly strange is that groups like "The Day We Fight Back" are entirely against government tracking of internet users, but then go out of their way to drive traffic to the corporate social media sites like Facebook which is probably the largest social database available for government data mining. For some reason, the P2P Foundation does the same. I agree with Eben Moglen when he says: "The correct solution is don't do Facebook." Eben Moglen on Facebook, Google and Government Surveillance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJCczbSF-B8 Eben Moglen Fosdem 2011 Keynote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNaIji_3xBE "Every time you make a link you are teaching the machine" -Karl
Hey Karl, Campaigns like the day we fight back aim for maximum impact and try to reach as many people as possible, that includes those on corporate networks. I agree the solution is just don't use facebook but that's often easier said then done. I managed to kick the Facebook habit. Though Google will be a bit harder. While the P2PF encourage people to use free and open alternatives we don't have any kind of special policy on social media. Our presence on corporate networks is maintained by volunteers, members of our community who are also active users of those platforms. I think it's useful for orgs like the P2PF to have a presence on those networks but to a degree. Personally I prefer forums such as this mailing list which are independent and open to all. Of course we should have a greater presence on networks that respect users privacy and are built on free software and suggestions on how we can improve are always welcome, but it's one thing saying and another thing doing, and an active presence on any network depends on volunteers who are committed to maintaining them. It would be great to have more discussion and even a skills exchange among the community on these kinds of issues. We are currently working on a new design for the P2PF site which will include a social network probably using buddypress. There is also an IRC channel. I'm sure there are people in our community that use IRC but just aren't aware of it. It is pretty quiet though http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Foundation_IRC_Channel I really like the quotes. Best Kevin On 7 February 2014 23:11, Karl Robillard <[email protected]> wrote:
On Friday, February 07, 2014 04:07:01 PM Kevin Flanagan wrote:
Anyone in the P2P community here organising events we can promote on the day?
Kevin
This is the first I've heard about it.
What I find amazingly strange is that groups like "The Day We Fight Back" are entirely against government tracking of internet users, but then go out of their way to drive traffic to the corporate social media sites like Facebook which is probably the largest social database available for government data mining.
For some reason, the P2P Foundation does the same. I agree with Eben Moglen when he says: "The correct solution is don't do Facebook."
Eben Moglen on Facebook, Google and Government Surveillance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJCczbSF-B8
Eben Moglen Fosdem 2011 Keynote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNaIji_3xBE
"Every time you make a link you are teaching the machine"
-Karl
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On Saturday, February 08, 2014 04:06:07 AM Kevin Flanagan wrote:
Of course we should have a greater presence on networks that respect users privacy and are built on free software and suggestions on how we can improve are always welcome, but it's one thing saying and another thing doing, and an active presence on any network depends on volunteers who are committed to maintaining them.
Yes, the doing part is what matters. That's why individual behavioral change is much more useful in the long run than hit-and-run collective statements like "We Fight Back". Here's one man who is doing something: http://jimlynch.com/internet/the-soul-destroying-pestilence-of-social-media-... Oh look! I'm being "social" by linking to Mr. Lynch's site... and there's not a single "Like" button in sight. Those social media buttons are simply advertisements for certain companies which already have too much economic power. I'm left wondering why people give them free advertising. What does something like BuddyPress bring to the table? I mean, other than maintenance overhead, perhaps another account, and having my relationships formally tracked? I've never understood the appeal of social media. It's a medium that allows us to: 1. Say "This is who I am because this is what I like" 2. Hear "I am important because lots of people like what I do" 3. Have our interactions formally tracked via computer. (Today, this part is privatized and monetized) This doesn't seem particularly useful and perhaps reflects our degraded society that goads the ego, encourages cults of personality, and capitalizes on information asymmetry. Trying to value people because of what they like is as short-sighted as trying to value things by putting a price on them. In the end, an individual is known by their works over time. You can't truly honor someone just by liking them - you must emulate them. -Karl
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