Agriculturalism - Ancient P2P - China
This is an article recently added on Wikipedia, and I think it is a very interesting read. Highly relevant to many of the current movements if you ask me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculturalism To the Agriculturalists, the ideal society is communal, agrarian, and egalitarian. The Agriculturalist believed that the ideal government is led by a benevolent king, one who works alongside the people in tilling the fields. The Agriculturalist king is not paid by the government through its treasuries; his livelihood is derived from the profits he earns working in the fields and cooking his own meals, not his leadership. The ruler of Teng is an upright and worthy ruler. However, he has yet to hear the Way. A wise ruler tills the land together with his people to make his living. He governs while cooking his own meals. Now, that Teng has granaries and treasuries means that [the ruler] inflicts hardship on the people to fatten himself. How can he be a worthy ruler? —Xu Xing[6]
fascinating! On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:56 AM, robin <[email protected]> wrote:
This is an article recently added on Wikipedia, and I think it is a very interesting read. Highly relevant to many of the current movements if you ask me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculturalism
To the Agriculturalists, the ideal society is communal, agrarian, and egalitarian. The Agriculturalist believed that the ideal government is led by a benevolent king, one who works alongside the people in tilling the fields. The Agriculturalist king is not paid by the government through its treasuries; his livelihood is derived from the profits he earns working in the fields and cooking his own meals, not his leadership.
The ruler of Teng is an upright and worthy ruler. However, he has yet to hear the Way. A wise ruler tills the land together with his people to make his living. He governs while cooking his own meals. Now, that Teng has granaries and treasuries means that [the ruler] inflicts hardship on the people to fatten himself. How can he be a worthy ruler? —Xu Xing[6]
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robin <robokow> wrote:
his livelihood is derived from the profits he earns working in the fields and cooking his own meals
Workers are paid Wages, not Profit. Wages are a *Cost* of production. Profit is what remains after paying all Costs, including Wages. Dammit people! No wonder nobody understands me when you arbitrarily switch Wages and Profits as though they are interchangeable.
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Patrick Anderson wrote:
Workers are paid Wages, not Profit.
Wages are a *Cost* of production. Profit is what remains after paying all Costs, including Wages.
essentially, select workers are only allowed a socially minimal legitimatizing-wage so as to funnel taxes/tribute to governments who massively subsidize elite corporate interests in exchange... workers are merely an unfortunate encumbrance these days... /:b the continuous cultural bail-outs, conceptual ponzi-schemes, and insider quid-pro-quo ("critical mobility...") are finally coming to a joyously redemptive end; the options for (non-complicit) artists will no longer be reductively dependent on obstructionist oligarchical art-agencies to celebrate this event and concurrent devaluations, I've quickly (without any funding,) designed a FREEE pinback button appropriated from US Federal Currency Seals: ENCUMBRANCE EXCLUSION EQUIVOCATION (only $2.99 for shipping, delivered anywhere); provide cash, cheque, or paypal with delivery address via [email protected] http://bradbrace.net/EEE.html awesome! /:b -
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