sam, the place is http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Infrastructure, Michel, can you tell me a good place to plug this in to p2pf wiki? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel Rose <[email protected]> Date: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [P2P-F] weak vs strong ties as wrong dilemma To: Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> Cc: George Papanikolaou <[email protected]> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:

Sam,

with george, who is quite busy but interested, I'm quite committed to create a group for social reflection on how the p2p phase transition can occur,

I will start with him a collective reading of the state theory of nikos poulantzas, who was an innovative greek marxist thinker

but I would love to have a permanet vehicle for high level strategizing

Michel

George, very glad to meet you. Michel, definitely count us in on this. I think you are right, that while there are no guarantees, that in many ways this transition is starting now. One sign that seems to me to be connected to both wikileaks phenomenon earlier, and the Pirate Party/Tunisia/Egypt activity is that more and more mainstream programmers and internet advocates (like Douglas Rushkoff) are seriously discussing or already contributing to efforts to create truly p2p/distributed internet infrastructure. I know you've seen me state this previously, but I will repeat it here: The pressures close, control, and centralize the networks and software that are the "internet" by corporations and governments are driving the rapid evolution of a completely distributed internet infrastructure. The technological building blocks to create a distributed internet have existed for some time now, it has largely been a matter of obstacles being social/political/cultural. So, this old, forgotten book is now really important again for the at least part of the discussion on the basic exploration of concepts (although the technologies it discusses may be outdated): http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001100/ The Ruby programming language now supports distributed Ruby programming, and Erlang can handle massively distributed computing as well. Several data stores have also emerged that can easily be distributed (couchdb, riak, etc). See also: http://en.oreilly.com/mysql2011/public/schedule/detail/17648 The web protocols behind the diaspora software release also show that a fully distributed social networking web infrastructure is now possible. Michel, can you tell me a good place to plug this in to p2pf wiki? I also have many examples as mentioned before of emerging discussion among open source software developers with the chops to make p2p internet happen, and mainstream channels like O'Reilly discussing again

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