Re: [P2P-F] Open Everything - Open House & Garden 2.0
Dear Leopold, Sounds like a really interesting project, a few ideas: via the P2P-F list, we can launch an initial discussion with interesting people in our network, i.e. "p2p-foundation" < [email protected]>, with people like Eric Hunting, Sam Rose, and more via the p2p-urbanism list, "p2p-urbanism-world-atlas" < [email protected]>, there is a whole crew of commons-oriented urban planners and architects such as Nikos Salingaros, Stefano Serafini and others once done, you can join a federation of commons oriented spaces like the one I'm just launching you may also want to watch the documentary A New We, and since your close, visit damanhur and its villages (you don't have to buy into their metaphysics to find this interesting real-life experimentation in different styles of sustainable living), I can personally not read German, so I suggest you write a english-language FAQ to launch the discussion in the suggested mailing lists, we can discuss how this links to a posssible ars electronica proposal separately, Stefano, Nikos: would you guys be interested in a joint project to ars electronica, to which I would participate, and eventually linked to Leopold's project? I've never been there, and cannont participate without funding; they always write me to be a candidate in their annual awards, but I haven't found time to do this on my own, Michel On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:13 PM, leopold zyka <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Michel,
Our last encounter was at the en:able conference in Vienna last year. en:able had a lot of unforgettable impressions to me. Also I am excited about your Open Everything movement ! Currently I am planning to buy a parcel of land at the periphery of vienna. I want to build a house for living with extended semiprivate spaces (gallery ?, ambient cinema ?, DIY-Lab, others…). I am in the early phase of brainstorming. Here you come into the game… I would like to develop the whole project under Open Source/Everything aspects. I don’t know if anybody has done this before. There is a proverb saying that you have to build 3 houses before you have a house which fits your demands. Peter Eisenman has build several houses which are manifestations of his analytical works. I don’t have enough resources and lifetime left to do it the same way. I would like to accelerate this evolutionary process and enrich it by wisdom of the crowd because I think even the best architect alone is not able to cope with the complexity of a state of the art design considering a lot of different aspects. www.zukunftshaus.at from the futurologist Matthias Horx might be a starting reference point. I would like to use existing experiences and try to push it forward to version 2.0 without having as much money as Matthias Horx. My Idea is to have a broad brainstorming discussion in the Web 2.0 environment accessing the wisdom of the crowd. Also I want to write a accompanying book “Open House & Garden 2.0” (working title). Attached is a very first draft beginning to collect ideas. It is mainly in german but I can send you an english version soon. Another idea is to make a submission at the ARS Electronica. I am attending at the ARS electronica for more than 10 years. Last year I made a contribution (Deep Cloud) about cloud intelligence in the category digital communities, but I had not enough time to finish and realize the project. I think your “open everything” topic could be interesting for the ARS electronica. My open architecture project could be a small part (ongoing project) of your bigger picture. Dou you know ARS electronica ? The golden nica last year in the category digital communities went to CCC (chaos computer club) and the history is full of big names (Wikipedia, Linus Torwalds, …) and so on but I think the time is ripe for more contemporary activities…
Please let me know what you think about my ideas in the following 3 points: 1) possible submission “Open Everything” at ARS 2011 I think Submissions for ARS 2011 have to be made until april.
2) launching “Open House & Garden 2.0” in the web For my open architecture project I would need support in launching the internet part. Maybe you have some ideas how to launch such a project in internet. My background is from software development but I don’t have time and resources to setup any infrastructure in the web. I think the minimum requirements would be to have a project BLOG. More better I would like to have a creative space in the Web for discussion, brainstorming, working with state of the art tools. The tools you are using for mindmapping are pointing in the right direction. The main question is how to get enough attentivness to find a lot of participants.
3) contribution for my book For one part of the book I am thinking to make interdisciplinary interviews with architects, artists, theoraticians, practicioners and so on. Is it thinkable to get a contribution from yourself ?
Many greetings from Vienna, Leopold
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Hi Leopold, based on what you wrote : *"Currently I am planning to buy a parcel of land at the periphery of vienna. I want to build a house for living with extended semiprivate spaces (gallery ?, ambient cinema ?, DIY-Lab, others…). I am in the early phase of brainstorming."* * * ***" I want to write a accompanying book “Open House & Garden 2.0” (working title)" * Perhaps you might also be interested in the approach/experience of nomadbases ? ( who from my point of experience , for casarobino at least, seem to have a lot of interest and involvement in open everything p2p approaches ) http://nomadbase.org http://casarobino.org ( Amsterdam nomadbase ) http://sharewiki.org/en/Casarobino On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Leopold,
Sounds like a really interesting project,
a few ideas:
via the P2P-F list, we can launch an initial discussion with interesting people in our network, i.e. "p2p-foundation" < [email protected]>, with people like Eric Hunting, Sam Rose, and more
via the p2p-urbanism list, "p2p-urbanism-world-atlas" < [email protected]>, there is a whole crew of commons-oriented urban planners and architects such as Nikos Salingaros, Stefano Serafini and others
once done, you can join a federation of commons oriented spaces like the one I'm just launching
you may also want to watch the documentary A New We, and since your close, visit damanhur and its villages (you don't have to buy into their metaphysics to find this interesting real-life experimentation in different styles of sustainable living),
I can personally not read German, so I suggest you write a english-language FAQ to launch the discussion in the suggested mailing lists,
we can discuss how this links to a posssible ars electronica proposal separately,
Stefano, Nikos: would you guys be interested in a joint project to ars electronica, to which I would participate, and eventually linked to Leopold's project?
I've never been there, and cannont participate without funding; they always write me to be a candidate in their annual awards, but I haven't found time to do this on my own,
Michel
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:13 PM, leopold zyka <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Michel,
Our last encounter was at the en:able conference in Vienna last year. en:able had a lot of unforgettable impressions to me. Also I am excited about your Open Everything movement ! Currently I am planning to buy a parcel of land at the periphery of vienna. I want to build a house for living with extended semiprivate spaces (gallery ?, ambient cinema ?, DIY-Lab, others…). I am in the early phase of brainstorming. Here you come into the game… I would like to develop the whole project under Open Source/Everything aspects. I don’t know if anybody has done this before. There is a proverb saying that you have to build 3 houses before you have a house which fits your demands. Peter Eisenman has build several houses which are manifestations of his analytical works. I don’t have enough resources and lifetime left to do it the same way. I would like to accelerate this evolutionary process and enrich it by wisdom of the crowd because I think even the best architect alone is not able to cope with the complexity of a state of the art design considering a lot of different aspects. www.zukunftshaus.at from the futurologist Matthias Horx might be a starting reference point. I would like to use existing experiences and try to push it forward to version 2.0 without having as much money as Matthias Horx. My Idea is to have a broad brainstorming discussion in the Web 2.0 environment accessing the wisdom of the crowd. Also I want to write a accompanying book “Open House & Garden 2.0” (working title). Attached is a very first draft beginning to collect ideas. It is mainly in german but I can send you an english version soon. Another idea is to make a submission at the ARS Electronica. I am attending at the ARS electronica for more than 10 years. Last year I made a contribution (Deep Cloud) about cloud intelligence in the category digital communities, but I had not enough time to finish and realize the project. I think your “open everything” topic could be interesting for the ARS electronica. My open architecture project could be a small part (ongoing project) of your bigger picture. Dou you know ARS electronica ? The golden nica last year in the category digital communities went to CCC (chaos computer club) and the history is full of big names (Wikipedia, Linus Torwalds, …) and so on but I think the time is ripe for more contemporary activities…
Please let me know what you think about my ideas in the following 3 points: 1) possible submission “Open Everything” at ARS 2011 I think Submissions for ARS 2011 have to be made until april.
2) launching “Open House & Garden 2.0” in the web For my open architecture project I would need support in launching the internet part. Maybe you have some ideas how to launch such a project in internet. My background is from software development but I don’t have time and resources to setup any infrastructure in the web. I think the minimum requirements would be to have a project BLOG. More better I would like to have a creative space in the Web for discussion, brainstorming, working with state of the art tools. The tools you are using for mindmapping are pointing in the right direction. The main question is how to get enough attentivness to find a lot of participants.
3) contribution for my book For one part of the book I am thinking to make interdisciplinary interviews with architects, artists, theoraticians, practicioners and so on. Is it thinkable to get a contribution from yourself ?
Many greetings from Vienna, Leopold
-- Leopold Zyka Pfarrwiesengasse 11/1/11 A-1190 Vienna Tel.: 0699 1024 1032
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Michel Bauwens