Re: [P2P-F] definitions of ( hybrid networked ) modes of governance and, economics
Democracy doesn't mean rule of the majority. Etymologically its meaning is the rule of the people. While common convention in representative democracies is that this means majority rules, this is only one kind of democratic system, and the one which historically was considered to be 'weak' democracy as allowing people to vote for a representative once every four or five years gives the people only a small degree of power to rule themselves. This was contrasted with 'strong' or direct forms of democracy where either the people were able to either manage their affairs without the need for representatives to mediate for them, or those representatives were only temporary and were able to be recalled at any time if people were unhappy with their actions. Consequently direct democracy has largely been associated with anarchist leaning groups, such as social centres, squats and co-ops. Frequently these groups opt to make decisions by consensus rather than majority based decisions as this includes all participants in a meaningful way and allows them to voice their objections to ideas rather than placing them within an outvoted (and thus silenced) minority. On 03/03/2011 06:06, [email protected] wrote:
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson<[email protected]> Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:05 AM Subject: definitions of ( hybrid networked ) modes of governance and economics To:
In the following excerpt, starting at 378 seconds ( already marked in link ),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBBqM-ajoGI#t=378s
it states the use of polling to inform "democracy" ( or, so called, "representative democracy" ), from information coming from a population that can make "rational" decisions.
I wonder how one would call direct action , transactions , and contracts made by the people without a need for a representative, but with the possibility for proxy voting which can be changed at any time in case one would want others to take decisions for us instead of taking them oneself ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_voting ) .
How would such form of economics and governance be called, when enabled in hybrid forms of relational dynamics ?
I guess not "direct democracy", as democracy is from the rule of the majority.
I guess "Panocracy" ?
http://p2pfoundation.net/Panocracy
A principle underlying systems of organisation that asserts that everyone has the right to make and act on decisions about things that affect them and that no one else has the right to take that away from them.
or "Panarchy" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panarchy
*?an inclusive, universal system of governance in which all may participate meaningfully."*
for info, a typology at http://p2pfoundation.net/Democracy On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Sy <[email protected]> wrote:
Democracy doesn't mean rule of the majority. Etymologically its meaning is the rule of the people. While common convention in representative democracies is that this means majority rules, this is only one kind of democratic system, and the one which historically was considered to be 'weak' democracy as allowing people to vote for a representative once every four or five years gives the people only a small degree of power to rule themselves.
This was contrasted with 'strong' or direct forms of democracy where either the people were able to either manage their affairs without the need for representatives to mediate for them, or those representatives were only temporary and were able to be recalled at any time if people were unhappy with their actions.
Consequently direct democracy has largely been associated with anarchist leaning groups, such as social centres, squats and co-ops. Frequently these groups opt to make decisions by consensus rather than majority based decisions as this includes all participants in a meaningful way and allows them to voice their objections to ideas rather than placing them within an outvoted (and thus silenced) minority.
On 03/03/2011 06:06, [email protected] wrote:
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson<[email protected]> Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:05 AM Subject: definitions of ( hybrid networked ) modes of governance and economics To:
In the following excerpt, starting at 378 seconds ( already marked in link ),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBBqM-ajoGI#t=378s
it states the use of polling to inform "democracy" ( or, so called, "representative democracy" ), from information coming from a population that can make "rational" decisions.
I wonder how one would call direct action , transactions , and contracts made by the people without a need for a representative, but with the possibility for proxy voting which can be changed at any time in case one would want others to take decisions for us instead of taking them oneself ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_voting ) .
How would such form of economics and governance be called, when enabled in hybrid forms of relational dynamics ?
I guess not "direct democracy", as democracy is from the rule of the majority.
I guess "Panocracy" ?
http://p2pfoundation.net/Panocracy
A principle underlying systems of organisation that asserts that everyone has the right to make and act on decisions about things that affect them and that no one else has the right to take that away from them.
or "Panarchy" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panarchy
*?an inclusive, universal system of governance in which all may participate meaningfully."*
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