Re: [P2P-F] P2P Value Exchange
Dear Sam, I find this idea of a p2p-oriented personal transformation scorecard and proposed pathway to be awesome. I really hope you can expand on it and publish it as a blog proposal, this is something to be worked on, perhaps in the context of http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Facilitation, Michel On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Douglas Rushkoff <[email protected]> wrote:
It's tricky, and your business plan (if I may call it that) goes to the heart of the potential logical glitch with Contact as well: how can we expect to be paid a living for delivering groups of people unto themselves? I suppose the only way is not only to love doing it, but to be so good at it that you really are making something possible that wouldn't have been otherwise. That's why I say it's tricky. Ultimately, I would think you could develop a set of resources that let people just do what you're talking about. The way civic organizations federalized in the early 1900's (as Putnam explains in Bowling Alone). In the meantime, and at the very outset, you actually workshop these things live for money - which is also a trick since money is the last thing most of these communities have. But the "lack of action of community organizations that are focusing on..." is troubling to me. It's like you've come up with a solution but can't find people ready with the problem. There are many groups attempting sustainable community/economic models though. If you're interested in hooking up with them, I can find some lists.
You've got me thinking, Douglas, that there could be a use for a way for people to "audit" their lives, and see how much of their activity is currently in 20th century industrial paradigm ecologies, and how much they have invested in emerging p2p ecologies/economies.
This is actually directly related to the models we're developing for our project "Understanding Today's Economic Transformation"
http://rockethub.com/projects/1349-understanding-today-s-economic-transforma... (contributions of any amount welcome, as this campaign is still active with 14 days left to go!). A practical application that is possible from that work could be an application to see your transition, plus ways to enhance participation in emerging systems.
People communicate with me that they need workable ways for transitioning themselves as individuals and collaborative groups towards peer-to-peer economies. Re-localization is definitely part of the picture. So is organized sharing. And a fundamental approach that allows your work and systems to be highly re-usable/inter-operable.
-- -- Sam Rose Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 skype: samuelrose email: [email protected] http://futureforwardinstitute.com http://forwardfound.org http://hollymeadcapital.com http://p2pfoundation.net http://socialmediaclassroom.com
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." - Carl Sagan
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On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Sam,
I find this idea of a p2p-oriented personal transformation scorecard and proposed pathway to be awesome.
I really hope you can expand on it and publish it as a blog proposal, this is something to be worked on, perhaps in the context of http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Facilitation,
Michel
Look for this from us soon for sure. We have some work that some people may recall from about a year ago that was a foundation for this, and we'll revisit it and post it to blog and wiki soon.
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Douglas Rushkoff <[email protected]> wrote:
It's tricky, and your business plan (if I may call it that) goes to the heart of the potential logical glitch with Contact as well: how can we expect to be paid a living for delivering groups of people unto themselves? I suppose the only way is not only to love doing it, but to be so good at it that you really are making something possible that wouldn't have been otherwise. That's why I say it's tricky. Ultimately, I would think you could develop a set of resources that let people just do what you're talking about. The way civic organizations federalized in the early 1900's (as Putnam explains in Bowling Alone). In the meantime, and at the very outset, you actually workshop these things live for money - which is also a trick since money is the last thing most of these communities have. But the "lack of action of community organizations that are focusing on..." is troubling to me. It's like you've come up with a solution but can't find people ready with the problem. There are many groups attempting sustainable community/economic models though. If you're interested in hooking up with them, I can find some lists.
You've got me thinking, Douglas, that there could be a use for a way for people to "audit" their lives, and see how much of their activity is currently in 20th century industrial paradigm ecologies, and how much they have invested in emerging p2p ecologies/economies.
This is actually directly related to the models we're developing for our project "Understanding Today's Economic Transformation"
http://rockethub.com/projects/1349-understanding-today-s-economic-transforma... (contributions of any amount welcome, as this campaign is still active with 14 days left to go!). A practical application that is possible from that work could be an application to see your transition, plus ways to enhance participation in emerging systems.
People communicate with me that they need workable ways for transitioning themselves as individuals and collaborative groups towards peer-to-peer economies. Re-localization is definitely part of the picture. So is organized sharing. And a fundamental approach that allows your work and systems to be highly re-usable/inter-operable.
-- -- Sam Rose Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 skype: samuelrose email: [email protected] http://futureforwardinstitute.com http://forwardfound.org http://hollymeadcapital.com http://p2pfoundation.net http://socialmediaclassroom.com
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." - Carl Sagan
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
-- -- Sam Rose Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 skype: samuelrose email: [email protected] http://futureforwardinstitute.com http://forwardfound.org http://hollymeadcapital.com http://p2pfoundation.net http://socialmediaclassroom.com "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." - Carl Sagan
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Michel Bauwens -
Samuel Rose