hi peter, I don't question the general process, but orsan is very specific and so he must base himself on specific documentation example, it is one thing to say, "it is possible or probable that some of the terror attacks are false flag operations' but when you say "all recent attacks in the US are false flag operations', then you need proof I am just a bit surprised that Gulen would fund james bourne movies, and also speficially that the CIA would fund films that are devastating for its image, contrast that to the funding of the pentagon of hollywood war movies, which always have an important positive role for the army .. On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:23 PM, peter waterman <[email protected]

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Surely, Orsan and Michel, parallels between cultural products and socio-political processes may be 'funded' as part of inter/national class or state warfare. I recall the CIA-funded Congress for Cultural Freedom (details need checking) of the 1950s.

However we really 'have no need of that hypothesis'. For instance the brilliant dystopian novel of Dave Eggers, 'The Circle' - essential reading for everyone on this site - has no need of such.

Likewise neither 1984 nor Animal Farm, even if Orwell did - later? - get involved in the CIA activities mentioned above. And then even if the Eggers novel was funded by Microsoft or Apple or Homeland (in)Security, it would seem to be profoundly counter-productive, a dreadful warning.

P

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:

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On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Orsan Senalp <[email protected]> wrote:

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On one side there is Gore-Clinton-Soros-CIA-gulen-moon-current Vatican and associated groups (Bourne movie represents) and on the other neo-cons, Wall Street-western oil giants-pentagon, FBI, Zionist Israeli capital sort of constellation (Bond movies represents).

interesting hypothesis that the CIA would back movies that are so devastating of its practices ... and infuse it with so much left-wing themes and left-wing activist actors ...

I'm curious to your evidence ?

In particular, what is the link between Gulen and the Bourne movies ?

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