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well said Sam! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Quora <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:48 PM Subject: New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?" To: [email protected] [image: Quora]New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?" *Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though. Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture. *To see the question page with all answers, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/Rd5CXzYp* Thanks, The Quora Team We sent you this email because you are following this question. To stop following it, click this link: http://www.quora.com/l/quP9kGPz/_STOP_FOLLOWING To control which emails we send you, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/P3aGJZiY This email was sent by Quora, a continually improving collection of questions and answers created, edited, and organized by everyone who uses it. To disable all email from Quora, visit the following link: http://www.quora.com/l/K3HE3bvA -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos". Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the territory. And almost everybody does it! We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other rules may exist.... Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about this confusion and its consequences. http://is.gd/URiWqO Olivier 2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>
well said Sam!
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[image: Quora] New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?" *Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though.
Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.
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thanks Olivier, are you on quora? I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' .. Michel On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber <[email protected]>wrote:
In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos".
Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the territory. And almost everybody does it!
We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other rules may exist....
Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about this confusion and its consequences.
Olivier
2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>
well said Sam!
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[image: Quora] New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?" *Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though.
Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.
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I tried to create an account, but it told me it is by invitation only... Roberto Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Olivier, are you on quora?
I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' ..
Michel
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos".
Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the territory. And almost everybody does it!
We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other rules may exist....
Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about this confusion and its consequences.
Olivier
2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
well said Sam!
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*Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though.
Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.
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I just invited you, anybody else who needs an invitation let me know, if't s a great place to learn from knowledgeable people, and also to re-share the material we have assembled at the p2p foundation, Michel On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected]>wrote:
I tried to create an account, but it told me it is by invitation only...
Roberto
Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Olivier, are you on quora?
I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' ..
Michel
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos".
Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the territory. And almost everybody does it!
We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other rules may exist....
Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about this confusion and its consequences.
Olivier
2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
well said Sam!
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New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?"
*Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though.
Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.
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Hi Michel, Would like an invitation. Thanks for taking the time to help us all out. Nancy Roof On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
I just invited you,
anybody else who needs an invitation let me know,
if't s a great place to learn from knowledgeable people, and also to re-share the material we have assembled at the p2p foundation,
Michel
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> wrote: I tried to create an account, but it told me it is by invitation only...
Roberto
Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Olivier, are you on quora?
I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' ..
Michel
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos".
Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the territory. And almost everybody does it!
We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other rules may exist....
Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about this confusion and its consequences.
Olivier
2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
well said Sam!
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New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?"
*Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though.
Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.
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Done Nancy, hope you are doing well! On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Nancy Roof <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Michel,
Would like an invitation.
Thanks for taking the time to help us all out.
Nancy Roof
On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
I just invited you,
anybody else who needs an invitation let me know,
if't s a great place to learn from knowledgeable people, and also to re-share the material we have assembled at the p2p foundation,
Michel
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected]>wrote:
I tried to create an account, but it told me it is by invitation only...
Roberto
Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Olivier, are you on quora?
I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' ..
Michel
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos".
Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the territory. And almost everybody does it!
We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other rules may exist....
Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about this confusion and its consequences.
Olivier
2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
well said Sam!
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*Sam Rose*: I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for social activism, though.
Many people do not realize that activity among participant activists online usually happens across a diverse range of "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open source software like statusnet, and emerging services like quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.
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