I was so enthused-sent money-wanted to help-wanted to get support from other groups to magnify political power. What’s happening?? I believe the strategy needs to be reworked. The entire Occupy idea hasn’t been very successful. If you have a campsite- as time passes, the energy is spent on housekeeping issues-not political pressure. Issues revert to games with police & maintenance. Distractions & bad actors within the camps alienate off-site supporters. Start over in the spring with new & vibrant messages. Attack responsible parties-The FED-Treasury-SEC-Fannie & Freddie-enough 4 starters. One huge march @ a time-revolving-with an agreed-upon demand (just 1) & focusing on failures & evil actors at each station. Wall Street is powerless without politicians enabling them!! I drove by our local pathetic group today- that had been moved to the sidewalk & got really angry & teary. It doesn’t have to end this way-Does it??
We're building the infrastructure necessary for the type of actions you're talking about - crm, rss aggregation, wiki, mapping, etc. You can find some info at wiki.occupy.net. The community organizers are building relationships with all types of organizations. It takes time. My suggestion is to get involved locally and post your advice to your occupation's website. We'll be able to identify and spread content from there starting in about a week. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Natalie Golovin <[email protected]> wrote:
I was so enthused-sent money-wanted to help-wanted to get support from other groups to magnify political power. What’s happening?? I believe the strategy needs to be reworked. The entire Occupy idea hasn’t been very successful. If you have a campsite- as time passes, the energy is spent on housekeeping issues-not political pressure. Issues revert to games with police & maintenance. Distractions & bad actors within the camps alienate off-site supporters. Start over in the spring with new & vibrant messages. Attack responsible parties-The FED-Treasury-SEC-Fannie & Freddie-enough 4 starters. One huge march @ a time-revolving-with an agreed-upon demand (just 1) & focusing on failures & evil actors at each station. Wall Street is powerless without politicians enabling them!! I drove by our local pathetic group today- that had been moved to the sidewalk & got really angry & teary. It doesn’t have to end this way-Does it??
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hi Natalie, it must be hard to see, but at the same time, one has to think about the extraordinary achievements in such a short time ... building a movement is never going to be a walk in the park! On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Natalie Golovin <[email protected]> wrote:
I was so enthused-sent money-wanted to help-wanted to get support from other groups to magnify political power. What’s happening?? I believe the strategy needs to be reworked. The entire Occupy idea hasn’t been very successful. If you have a campsite- as time passes, the energy is spent on housekeeping issues-not political pressure. Issues revert to games with police & maintenance. Distractions & bad actors within the camps alienate off-site supporters. Start over in the spring with new & vibrant messages. Attack responsible parties-The FED-Treasury-SEC-Fannie & Freddie-enough 4 starters. One huge march @ a time-revolving-with an agreed-upon demand (just 1) & focusing on failures & evil actors at each station. Wall Street is powerless without politicians enabling them!! I drove by our local pathetic group today- that had been moved to the sidewalk & got really angry & teary. It doesn’t have to end this way-Does it??
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Hi Natalie, I also suggest that the OWS movement has already been a huge success. It has brought the question of the distribution of wealth onto the political agenda where it simply wasn't before. Previously, all political discussion of wealth has been about total national wealth - not its distribution. Now it's an issue for 99% of voters. You say, "the energy is spent on housekeeping issues - not political pressure" - however, those housekeeping issues are implicitly political. What they're achieving is developing expertise and capacity to maintain shared public living spaces and forums which operate outside conventional economic models and dominant value systems. They show that alternatives are possible. I wonder whether more coherent, more focused protest and political action might actually effect fewer changes. Best Regards, James ===== On 30/11/11 08:21, Michel Bauwens wrote:
hi Natalie, it must be hard to see, but at the same time, one has to think about the extraordinary achievements in such a short time ... building a movement is never going to be a walk in the park!
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Natalie Golovin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was so enthused-sent money-wanted to help-wanted to get support from other groups to magnify political power. What’s happening?? I believe the strategy needs to be reworked. The entire Occupy idea hasn’t been very successful. If you have a campsite- as time passes, the energy is spent on housekeeping issues-not political pressure. Issues revert to games with police & maintenance. Distractions & bad actors within the camps alienate off-site supporters. Start over in the spring with new & vibrant messages. Attack responsible parties-The FED-Treasury-SEC-Fannie & Freddie-enough 4 starters. One huge march @ a time-revolving-with an agreed-upon demand (just 1) & focusing on failures & evil actors at each station. Wall Street is powerless without politicians enabling them!! I drove by our local pathetic group today- that had been moved to the sidewalk & got really angry & teary. It doesn’t have to end this way-Does it??
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Natalie Golovin