Hi all, wouldn't it be time for a ".open" TLD? I think it would spur the open movement to even faster growth. What do you think? Rasmus
thanks Rasmus, I'm copying this to our infrastructure discussion list as well, could you elaborate? Michel On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi all,
wouldn't it be time for a ".open" TLD?
I think it would spur the open movement to even faster growth.
What do you think?
Rasmus
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
Reasoning: 1. All the pieces needed for a new "open" society exist, they just need to be drawn together. 2. The Internet is in fact a decentralised, distributed, peer to peer platform, no need to build a new one. 3. "Open" is the word we internationally use to describe this new way of cooperating. 4. What's missing is a central "authority" but the open movement can't have a centralised model because open is decentralised, non- authorative at it's core. 5. Top level domains (TLDs) are the highest authoritative level on the Internet. 6. With a sponsored top level domain (sTLD) an open non-profit meritocracy goverened body could oversee and distribute domains to open initiatives. 7. The rules for what is open would be open to discussion for the public. 8. The public could report abuse by non-open initiatives that have registered a domain under the TLD. Examples: university.open hardware.open software.open news.open etc Goal: Make it easier for those who work for the open movement to collaborate, and especially find projects to contribute to instead of starting new parallell projects, which I see as the main issue currently. Rasmus On 15 sep 2011, at 17.11, Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Rasmus, I'm copying this to our infrastructure discussion list as well,
could you elaborate?
Michel
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]
wrote:
Hi all,
wouldn't it be time for a ".open" TLD?
I think it would spur the open movement to even faster growth.
What do you think?
Rasmus
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/ mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
just to make sure I understand, tld .open does not exist yet right? and is there an ICANN procedure to generate it? or does it already exist? if not, feel free to write up this proposal for publication on our blog!! On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]>wrote:
Reasoning:
1. All the pieces needed for a new "open" society exist, they just need to be drawn together.
2. The Internet is in fact a decentralised, distributed, peer to peer platform, no need to build a new one.
3. "Open" is the word we internationally use to describe this new way of cooperating.
4. What's missing is a central "authority" but the open movement can't have a centralised model because open is decentralised, non- authorative at it's core.
5. Top level domains (TLDs) are the highest authoritative level on the Internet.
6. With a sponsored top level domain (sTLD) an open non-profit meritocracy goverened body could oversee and distribute domains to open initiatives.
7. The rules for what is open would be open to discussion for the public.
8. The public could report abuse by non-open initiatives that have registered a domain under the TLD.
Examples:
university.open hardware.open software.open news.open etc
Goal:
Make it easier for those who work for the open movement to collaborate, and especially find projects to contribute to instead of starting new parallell projects, which I see as the main issue currently.
Rasmus
On 15 sep 2011, at 17.11, Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Rasmus, I'm copying this to our infrastructure discussion list as well,
could you elaborate?
Michel
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]
wrote:
Hi all,
wouldn't it be time for a ".open" TLD?
I think it would spur the open movement to even faster growth.
What do you think?
Rasmus
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/ mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
Doesn't exist yet, no. The ".xxx" domain got approved this year, and if the adult entertainment industry is allowed their own TLD, well, it's a disgrace of the spirit of the Internet if the open movement can't get their own. I'll write a proposal! On 15 sep 2011, at 19.17, Michel Bauwens wrote:
just to make sure I understand, tld .open does not exist yet right?
and is there an ICANN procedure to generate it?
or does it already exist?
if not, feel free to write up this proposal for publication on our blog!!
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]
wrote:
Reasoning:
1. All the pieces needed for a new "open" society exist, they just need to be drawn together.
2. The Internet is in fact a decentralised, distributed, peer to peer platform, no need to build a new one.
3. "Open" is the word we internationally use to describe this new way of cooperating.
4. What's missing is a central "authority" but the open movement can't have a centralised model because open is decentralised, non- authorative at it's core.
5. Top level domains (TLDs) are the highest authoritative level on the Internet.
6. With a sponsored top level domain (sTLD) an open non-profit meritocracy goverened body could oversee and distribute domains to open initiatives.
7. The rules for what is open would be open to discussion for the public.
8. The public could report abuse by non-open initiatives that have registered a domain under the TLD.
Examples:
university.open hardware.open software.open news.open etc
Goal:
Make it easier for those who work for the open movement to collaborate, and especially find projects to contribute to instead of starting new parallell projects, which I see as the main issue currently.
Rasmus
On 15 sep 2011, at 17.11, Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Rasmus, I'm copying this to our infrastructure discussion list as well,
could you elaborate?
Michel
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]
wrote:
Hi all,
wouldn't it be time for a ".open" TLD?
I think it would spur the open movement to even faster growth.
What do you think?
Rasmus
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/ mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/ mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
ok thanks, you can post it on Ning first, ping me, and we'll then refract it on the more popular regular blog a few days after, Michel On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]>wrote:
Doesn't exist yet, no.
The ".xxx" domain got approved this year, and if the adult entertainment industry is allowed their own TLD, well, it's a disgrace of the spirit of the Internet if the open movement can't get their own.
I'll write a proposal!
On 15 sep 2011, at 19.17, Michel Bauwens wrote:
just to make sure I understand, tld .open does not exist yet right?
and is there an ICANN procedure to generate it?
or does it already exist?
if not, feel free to write up this proposal for publication on our blog!!
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rasmus Wikman <[email protected]
wrote:
Reasoning:
1. All the pieces needed for a new "open" society exist, they just need to be drawn together.
2. The Internet is in fact a decentralised, distributed, peer to peer platform, no need to build a new one.
3. "Open" is the word we internationally use to describe this new way of cooperating.
4. What's missing is a central "authority" but the open movement can't have a centralised model because open is decentralised, non- authorative at it's core.
5. Top level domains (TLDs) are the highest authoritative level on the Internet.
6. With a sponsored top level domain (sTLD) an open non-profit meritocracy goverened body could oversee and distribute domains to open initiatives.
7. The rules for what is open would be open to discussion for the public.
8. The public could report abuse by non-open initiatives that have registered a domain under the TLD.
Examples:
university.open hardware.open software.open news.open etc
Goal:
Make it easier for those who work for the open movement to collaborate, and especially find projects to contribute to instead of starting new parallell projects, which I see as the main issue currently.
Rasmus
On 15 sep 2011, at 17.11, Michel Bauwens wrote:
thanks Rasmus, I'm copying this to our infrastructure discussion list as well,
could you elaborate?
Michel
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Rasmus Wikman < [email protected]
wrote:
Hi all,
wouldn't it be time for a ".open" TLD?
I think it would spur the open movement to even faster growth.
What do you think?
Rasmus
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/ mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/ mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
_______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
Never heard of "open software". See my flamable comment on "openness" on the relevant wiki page. In a nutshell, open feels more like panopticon than freedom. http://p2pfoundation.net/Talk:Autonomous_Internet_Road_Map == hk
On 16/09/11 21:53, hellekin wrote:
Never heard of "open software". See my flamable comment on "openness" on the relevant wiki page. In a nutshell, open feels more like panopticon than freedom.
The software story (GNU and all that) is generally instructive: Openness is what is left when you have removed the principles of freedom. m -- http://commoning.wordpress.com "...I thought we were an autonomous collective..."
participants (4)
-
hellekin -
jmp -
Michel Bauwens -
Rasmus Wikman