Dante, this is an interesting set of questions you've been asking in various ways. I think you're thinking of a form of dual and/or parallel power. What you need is a voluntary and open platform for self-governance that is self-regulating (i know, i know...i'm being just a little redundant here.) This platform needs to be based on the ability of individuals to partner with all other individuals as required, both on an individual to individual basis and with the 'company of the whole' as it were. It would probably have the properties of a social movement that is a company, and a company that is a social movement. It would position itself to enter actual partnership arrangements with political jurisdictions on a more-or-less peer-to-peer basis. A number of social movements of various kinds have come close enough to this scenario to deserve some mention. For example, cooperatives in North America, particularly in Canada, have at times functioned as parliamentary parties whilst tending to the business of being farm cooperatives. There was a larger populist social movement dynamic going on that made this possible. The experience of cooperative federations in Emilia-Romagna is also very highly suggestive as well. I normally think of social movements having two wings, but I'm thinking of suggesting that perhaps social movements can be three-winged birds or take on the metaphorical properties of a Harrier Jet. Regards Alan -----Original Message----- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <[email protected]> To: p2p-foundation <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 5:44 am Subject: [P2P-F] DIY - forking - setting up a government - as legal entity ? HI All, I have a question : if we where to set up our own ( country / region / state ) government, according to some principles discussed on p2p foundation platforms, how would we do it ? In the country I come from, we often joke as we have so many governments on the same territory : federal, regional, linguistic, and transnational governments, in addition to local bodies of governance, and the financial system of control. So why not one more ? A legal entity, with members, who through a mechanism yet to be determined, builds up "code" for its own governance ? A new legal entity potentially bringing more clarity to all the other ones ? Some "open, participatory, panocratic panarchy government" ? What would you suggest forking such kind of government on ? What code ? Existing laws ? If so, which ones ? And which ones would suit a p2p paradigm ? Would this also require a new constitution ? Would it be in phase with existing constitutions ? There are such kind of projects already, some artistic ( missing reference ) others more serious diaspora attempts, such as regarding the expatriate tamil's from Sri Lanka : http://www.tgte-us.org/mission.html _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation