*Mohamad Tarifi <http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/bio/tarifi/>'s economic proposals at http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/tarifi20110908 are quite interesting and sensible, I'll be excerpting the p2p paragraphs on the blog on the 18th, Michel * -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
This seems quite progressive for the most part, and it seems to be not fully out of the neo-classical financialized capitalism box. Lietaer's own The Future of Money directly admits concession to the debt based monetary model. I believe I remember that it appears on page 214. In effect the agenda of nominal monetary reform without much actual monetary reform. By way of an historical example from the 19 century in the US, Pres. Andrew Jackson's battle against the Second National Bank of the US as a group of blood thirsty frauds and thieves was not a simple hero story featuring good guy versus bad guys. It is actually an example of right problem but wrong solution. The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm. The Greenbacks became politically hazardous later exactly because of the massive positive effect of an asset based, sovereign issued currency, the banking sector lobbied hard toward converting the US system onto a Gold standard, and they won that one. In 1863-4 the National Banking acts were passed as a compromise with the banking sector of the pro-war merchants. These laws allowed the operations and incorporation of banking corporations across state lines and shut down the ability of local and state banks to issue currencies. This allowed the mega-banks to be largely control the development of the economy once the US Civil War ended. And there is more, and then also the fraud of the US Federal Reserve, in the lineage of the Bank of England fraud playbook. The failings of the Confederacy was particularly interesting in that they preserved the states rights category of impairing actual common economic participation, and thereby did not have anything like the Greenbacks. The point here is that the same sort of centrifugal dynamics will prevail, including in the assumption of limited framing and alternatives. To put it in zen koan structure, when is an alternative, like one hand clapping? To put it another way perhaps the possibilities should be only limited by our capacities, rather than by the acceptance of standards and policy manuals for the sake of free rent and worse. Cook's Open Capital model also hovers on the edge of the post-Keynesian macro-commons. In effect the Greenback was the right solution to the chicanery of the Second National Bank of the US. It was not a debt based currency. Exhortations to a social libertarianism seem most practical when the additional capacities can be explored outside the installed pre-suppositions. as we go, Tadit Anderson Civilized, gives people equal economic opportunity and basic income security. Massively parallel decision making and pricing based on a market (the best of capitalism). Environmentally conscious. Resilient to future changes in automation, robotics. P2P lending encourages community building, nurturing trust, and long term thinking. Resolves the tragedy of the commons in a mature way: P2P trust effectively limits the effects of free-loaders without ruining the entire playing field. On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:00:19 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
*Mohamad Tarifi <http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/bio/tarifi/>'s economic proposals at http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/tarifi20110908 are quite interesting and sensible,
I'll be excerpting the p2p paragraphs on the blog on the 18th,
Michel *
I don't know enough of U.S. history to understand your contribution fully, but I am intrigued by one paragraph, just below, and wonder if you would not be up for a p2p blog article on 'wrong solutions to commons problems', where you elaborate the following for a lay audience, see: "The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm." On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
This seems quite progressive for the most part, and it seems to be not fully out of the neo-classical financialized capitalism box. Lietaer's own The Future of Money directly admits concession to the debt based monetary model. I believe I remember that it appears on page 214. In effect the agenda of nominal monetary reform without much actual monetary reform.
By way of an historical example from the 19 century in the US, Pres. Andrew Jackson's battle against the Second National Bank of the US as a group of blood thirsty frauds and thieves was not a simple hero story featuring good guy versus bad guys. It is actually an example of right problem but wrong solution. The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm.
The Greenbacks became politically hazardous later exactly because of the massive positive effect of an asset based, sovereign issued currency, the banking sector lobbied hard toward converting the US system onto a Gold standard, and they won that one. In 1863-4 the National Banking acts were passed as a compromise with the banking sector of the pro-war merchants. These laws allowed the operations and incorporation of banking corporations across state lines and shut down the ability of local and state banks to issue currencies. This allowed the mega-banks to be largely control the development of the economy once the US Civil War ended. And there is more, and then also the fraud of the US Federal Reserve, in the lineage of the Bank of England fraud playbook. The failings of the Confederacy was particularly interesting in that they preserved the states rights category of impairing actual common economic participation, and thereby did not have anything like the Greenbacks.
The point here is that the same sort of centrifugal dynamics will prevail, including in the assumption of limited framing and alternatives. To put it in zen koan structure, when is an alternative, like one hand clapping? To put it another way perhaps the possibilities should be only limited by our capacities, rather than by the acceptance of standards and policy manuals for the sake of free rent and worse. Cook's Open Capital model also hovers on the edge of the post-Keynesian macro-commons. In effect the Greenback was the right solution to the chicanery of the Second National Bank of the US. It was not a debt based currency. Exhortations to a social libertarianism seem most practical when the additional capacities can be explored outside the installed pre-suppositions.
as we go, Tadit Anderson
Civilized, gives people equal economic opportunity and basic income security.
Massively parallel decision making and pricing based on a market (the best of capitalism).
Environmentally conscious.
Resilient to future changes in automation, robotics.
P2P lending encourages community building, nurturing trust, and long term thinking.
Resolves the tragedy of the commons in a mature way:
P2P trust effectively limits the effects of free-loaders without ruining the entire playing field.
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:00:19 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
*Mohamad Tarifi <http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/bio/tarifi/>'s economic proposals at http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/tarifi20110908 are quite interesting and sensible,
I'll be excerpting the p2p paragraphs on the blog on the 18th,
Michel *
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Michel, imo, economics should be regarded as a commons domain rather than an ideology masked as an authentic discourse and the attendant priesthood to the oligarchy. I am trying to fathom your question and the reference to a lay audience. The whole fiscal process is deeply bought and thereby assumes the duty to and service to their patrons. "Wrong solutions to commons problems" could be expanded upon by using various historical examples. The nature of "positive" economics as actually also most positivistic discourse about doing science or doing a Science, have a distinct and strong aversion to an inductive working and morphing of patterns. Alongside this are implications from posing that perhaps Plato was a better playwright than philosopher. The commons has a metaphysics in Parmenides' poem, that legacy also has had scattered contributors operating in an often resurrected cosmology of capacities rather than by the means of conformity to abstractions and the predictable permutations and deviations. There are possibly six different examples I could describe relative wrong solutions to commons problems. The Laffer curve is one example. The history and bad economics places the basic world view as subverted mostly when ideology and theory have trumped actual results. Much of academic economics is explicitly anti-historical. There really is little light in the dismal streets and by-ways. The threat of an appearance is quickly promoted to fact. Wrong solutions to commons problems tends to be more than a few stories, and it is a way to start. And still this could go several different directions Mary Parker Follett had number of compatible methods and perspectives and an important part was her emphasis upon integrative meditation, which begins from the assumption that a commons exists within industrial contexts as well. She had right solutions based upon commons practices. She specifically described what she did as studying the science of cooperation. fast forward, Tadit Anderson On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:21:05 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't know enough of U.S. history to understand your contribution fully, but I am intrigued by one paragraph, just below, and wonder if you would not be up for a p2p blog article on 'wrong solutions to commons problems', where you elaborate the following for a lay audience,
see:
"The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm."
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
This seems quite progressive for the most part, and it seems to be not fully out of the neo-classical financialized capitalism box. Lietaer's own The Future of Money directly admits concession to the debt based monetary model. I believe I remember that it appears on page 214. In effect the agenda of nominal monetary reform without much actual monetary reform.
By way of an historical example from the 19 century in the US, Pres. Andrew Jackson's battle against the Second National Bank of the US as a group of blood thirsty frauds and thieves was not a simple hero story featuring good guy versus bad guys. It is actually an example of right problem but wrong solution. The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm.
The Greenbacks became politically hazardous later exactly because of the massive positive effect of an asset based, sovereign issued currency, the banking sector lobbied hard toward converting the US system onto a Gold standard, and they won that one. In 1863-4 the National Banking acts were passed as a compromise with the banking sector of the pro-war merchants. These laws allowed the operations and incorporation of banking corporations across state lines and shut down the ability of local and state banks to issue currencies. This allowed the mega-banks to be largely control the development of the economy once the US Civil War ended. And there is more, and then also the fraud of the US Federal Reserve, in the lineage of the Bank of England fraud playbook. The failings of the Confederacy was particularly interesting in that they preserved the states rights category of impairing actual common economic participation, and thereby did not have anything like the Greenbacks.
The point here is that the same sort of centrifugal dynamics will prevail, including in the assumption of limited framing and alternatives. To put it in zen koan structure, when is an alternative, like one hand clapping? To put it another way perhaps the possibilities should be only limited by our capacities, rather than by the acceptance of standards and policy manuals for the sake of free rent and worse. Cook's Open Capital model also hovers on the edge of the post-Keynesian macro-commons. In effect the Greenback was the right solution to the chicanery of the Second National Bank of the US. It was not a debt based currency. Exhortations to a social libertarianism seem most practical when the additional capacities can be explored outside the installed pre-suppositions.
as we go, Tadit Anderson
Civilized, gives people equal economic opportunity and basic income security.
Massively parallel decision making and pricing based on a market (the best of capitalism).
Environmentally conscious.
Resilient to future changes in automation, robotics.
P2P lending encourages community building, nurturing trust, and long term thinking.
Resolves the tragedy of the commons in a mature way:
P2P trust effectively limits the effects of free-loaders without ruining the entire playing field.
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:00:19 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
*Mohamad Tarifi <http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/bio/tarifi/>'s economic proposals at http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/tarifi20110908 are quite interesting and sensible,
I'll be excerpting the p2p paragraphs on the blog on the 18th,
Michel *
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Hi Tadit, the 6 examples you have could be the basis of a series and make it into a later book? should I add you to our list of commons-oriented economist? I don't think I know who you are so far ....? Michel On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:39 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Michel, imo, economics should be regarded as a commons domain rather than an ideology masked as an authentic discourse and the attendant priesthood to the oligarchy. I am trying to fathom your question and the reference to a lay audience. The whole fiscal process is deeply bought and thereby assumes the duty to and service to their patrons. "Wrong solutions to commons problems" could be expanded upon by using various historical examples. The nature of "positive" economics as actually also most positivistic discourse about doing science or doing a Science, have a distinct and strong aversion to an inductive working and morphing of patterns. Alongside this are implications from posing that perhaps Plato was a better playwright than philosopher.
The commons has a metaphysics in Parmenides' poem, that legacy also has had scattered contributors operating in an often resurrected cosmology of capacities rather than by the means of conformity to abstractions and the predictable permutations and deviations. There are possibly six different examples I could describe relative wrong solutions to commons problems. The Laffer curve is one example. The history and bad economics places the basic world view as subverted mostly when ideology and theory have trumped actual results. Much of academic economics is explicitly anti-historical. There really is little light in the dismal streets and by-ways. The threat of an appearance is quickly promoted to fact.
Wrong solutions to commons problems tends to be more than a few stories, and it is a way to start. And still this could go several different directions
Mary Parker Follett had number of compatible methods and perspectives and an important part was her emphasis upon integrative meditation, which begins from the assumption that a commons exists within industrial contexts as well. She had right solutions based upon commons practices. She specifically described what she did as studying the science of cooperation.
fast forward, Tadit Anderson
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:21:05 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't know enough of U.S. history to understand your contribution fully, but I am intrigued by one paragraph, just below, and wonder if you would not be up for a p2p blog article on 'wrong solutions to commons problems', where you elaborate the following for a lay audience,
see:
"The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm."
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
This seems quite progressive for the most part, and it seems to be not fully out of the neo-classical financialized capitalism box. Lietaer's own The Future of Money directly admits concession to the debt based monetary model. I believe I remember that it appears on page 214. In effect the agenda of nominal monetary reform without much actual monetary reform.
By way of an historical example from the 19 century in the US, Pres. Andrew Jackson's battle against the Second National Bank of the US as a group of blood thirsty frauds and thieves was not a simple hero story featuring good guy versus bad guys. It is actually an example of right problem but wrong solution. The power of the states and local banks to circulate their own certificates/currencies was the applied solution became known as the free banking era in US economic history. As a consequence of no banking regulations virtually at all By the time of the issuance of the US Greenbacks in 1861 there were 7,000 different currencies being used. The Free Banking period is renown for the widespread fraud, bankruptcy, and counterfeiting resulting from a state's rights "solution" to a commons problem. This is the same level of subversion of the need for a genuine alternative in a commons based monetary paradigm.
The Greenbacks became politically hazardous later exactly because of the massive positive effect of an asset based, sovereign issued currency, the banking sector lobbied hard toward converting the US system onto a Gold standard, and they won that one. In 1863-4 the National Banking acts were passed as a compromise with the banking sector of the pro-war merchants. These laws allowed the operations and incorporation of banking corporations across state lines and shut down the ability of local and state banks to issue currencies. This allowed the mega-banks to be largely control the development of the economy once the US Civil War ended. And there is more, and then also the fraud of the US Federal Reserve, in the lineage of the Bank of England fraud playbook. The failings of the Confederacy was particularly interesting in that they preserved the states rights category of impairing actual common economic participation, and thereby did not have anything like the Greenbacks.
The point here is that the same sort of centrifugal dynamics will prevail, including in the assumption of limited framing and alternatives. To put it in zen koan structure, when is an alternative, like one hand clapping? To put it another way perhaps the possibilities should be only limited by our capacities, rather than by the acceptance of standards and policy manuals for the sake of free rent and worse. Cook's Open Capital model also hovers on the edge of the post-Keynesian macro-commons. In effect the Greenback was the right solution to the chicanery of the Second National Bank of the US. It was not a debt based currency. Exhortations to a social libertarianism seem most practical when the additional capacities can be explored outside the installed pre-suppositions.
as we go, Tadit Anderson
Civilized, gives people equal economic opportunity and basic income security.
Massively parallel decision making and pricing based on a market (the best of capitalism).
Environmentally conscious.
Resilient to future changes in automation, robotics.
P2P lending encourages community building, nurturing trust, and long term thinking.
Resolves the tragedy of the commons in a mature way:
P2P trust effectively limits the effects of free-loaders without ruining the entire playing field.
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:00:19 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
*Mohamad Tarifi <http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/bio/tarifi/>'s economic proposals at http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/tarifi20110908 are quite interesting and sensible,
I'll be excerpting the p2p paragraphs on the blog on the 18th,
Michel *
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Michael, One of my ongoing projects is a group of trifold flyers I've developed over time. These flyers have been a major portion of our effort toward economic literacy. Currently I have about forty different topics, and rated according to the difficulty of the content from basic, to intermediate, to an advanced level. Most of these flyers are posted at the Re-Imagining Economics web site. Aside from occasions through the year, I have shipped boxes of these flyers to different related conferences. Our one major local event at this point is an annual community festival which is held toward the end of June. We have two people there generally myself and a co-conspiritor Greg who focuses primarily upon commons related issues. Currently his big issue is fracking now been promoted and perpetrated through our state. I tend to be on my feet talking to people about commons based economics through a long list of topics for most of the three days I need to spend a bit of time defining the six likely topics, and will come back to you with this. On not knowing who I am,, but , but we are now facebook friends, doesn't that mean something? (smile: here*) Ok, I have twenty plus years working in and around cooperatives, doing cooperative orientations is one project that I started with. At one point I branched off into economic history toward developing a more commons and people's version of economic history, picking up on various sympathetic historians and economists. Peter Linebaugh is one of my favorites, if that name means anything for you. Mary Parker Follet is another name that is not part of the usual household vocabulary, and she made a major contribution to commoning through cooperating communities including workplace cooperation as a commons. She was re-discovered by Peter Drucker relatively early in his career. The issue of the commons within economics has multiple barriers, including the basic nature of the applied philosophy of science and related metaphysics, and the ambient set of assumptions under the divine right of capital as management. I will return to you in a day or so to provide a possible list. One big fallacy is related to a bait and switch process wherein progressive values and virtues are declared but the actual economics don't match the declared values. Another is the assumption that a small "d" democratic process, as in by majority rule, and a low economic literacy can produce a commons based economics. A similar version exploits the expectations of "community," "freedom," and other familiar iconic words with high emotional value that tend to be discredited by the actual results. As to the accessibility of this sort of of over view, that will be at least served well by engagement through a blogging process. Again, I will give you a list of six or more themes with a thumbnail synopsis for each. more as we go, Tadit Anderson On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:44:50 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Tadit,
the 6 examples you have could be the basis of a series and make it into a later book?
should I add you to our list of commons-oriented economist? I don't think I know who you are so far ....?
Michel
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hi Tadit, if your flyers are also digital, we could scribd them and present them as a series on the blog ... (a series of 3 to start of with?) any material on Georgism and the commons? I did meet Peter LInebaugh .. for the curious about Mary Parker Follet, see: http://p2pfoundation.net/New_State On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Michael,
One of my ongoing projects is a group of trifold flyers I've developed over time. These flyers have been a major portion of our effort toward economic literacy. Currently I have about forty different topics, and rated according to the difficulty of the content from basic, to intermediate, to an advanced level. Most of these flyers are posted at the Re-Imagining Economics web site. Aside from occasions through the year, I have shipped boxes of these flyers to different related conferences. Our one major local event at this point is an annual community festival which is held toward the end of June. We have two people there generally myself and a co-conspiritor Greg who focuses primarily upon commons related issues. Currently his big issue is fracking now been promoted and perpetrated through our state. I tend to be on my feet talking to people about commons based economics through a long list of topics for most of the three days
I need to spend a bit of time defining the six likely topics, and will come back to you with this.
On not knowing who I am,, but , but we are now facebook friends, doesn't that mean something? (smile: here*) Ok, I have twenty plus years working in and around cooperatives, doing cooperative orientations is one project that I started with. At one point I branched off into economic history toward developing a more commons and people's version of economic history, picking up on various sympathetic historians and economists. Peter Linebaugh is one of my favorites, if that name means anything for you. Mary Parker Follet is another name that is not part of the usual household vocabulary, and she made a major contribution to commoning through cooperating communities including workplace cooperation as a commons. She was re-discovered by Peter Drucker relatively early in his career. The issue of the commons within economics has multiple barriers, including the basic nature of the applied philosophy of science and related metaphysics, and the ambient set of assumptions under the divine right of capital as management.
I will return to you in a day or so to provide a possible list. One big fallacy is related to a bait and switch process wherein progressive values and virtues are declared but the actual economics don't match the declared values. Another is the assumption that a small "d" democratic process, as in by majority rule, and a low economic literacy can produce a commons based economics. A similar version exploits the expectations of "community," "freedom," and other familiar iconic words with high emotional value that tend to be discredited by the actual results.
As to the accessibility of this sort of of over view, that will be at least served well by engagement through a blogging process. Again, I will give you a list of six or more themes with a thumbnail synopsis for each.
more as we go, Tadit Anderson
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:44:50 -0400, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Tadit,
the 6 examples you have could be the basis of a series and make it into a later book?
should I add you to our list of commons-oriented economist? I don't think I know who you are so far ....?
Michel
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