Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Slavoj Žižek on Greece: the courage of hopelessness
this highlights a point I made several times, the left no longer believes in any alternative itself, it has become as nihilist as the other side, they can truly no longer imagine an outside to capitalism and have become the other side of the same coin, it's tragic and therefore, I say 'non wauw' <g> so I read the greek defeat differently, they are telling us there is absolutely no alternative within the system anymore, and therefore the case for phase transition and system change is all the stronger I 100% disagree with the phrase that to imagine an alternative is to be deluded; on the contrary, nihilists will never win any political battles, only believers do (even if they can't reach their aims fully, have unintended consequences, etc .. etc ..) On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Peter Waterman <[email protected]> wrote:
Wauw! Or not wauw? I think it is pretty much Wauw!
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a pop star speaking out his mind. The guy was enjoying when Assange locked up, and uprisings slowed down after long mass media and police offensive He was preaching at Occupy, better the masses 'dont fall in love with your self!' Wikileaks, Occupy all were to him distractions; from himsief.. he meant instead 'fall in love with me!'. He is a Jakobin, he is The newstatesman; selfish, useless, hopless, thought version of lady gaga. Örsan
On 03 Aug 2015, at 10:30, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
this highlights a point I made several times,
the left no longer believes in any alternative itself, it has become as nihilist as the other side, they can truly no longer imagine an outside to capitalism and have become the other side of the same coin,
it's tragic and therefore, I say 'non wauw' <g>
so I read the greek defeat differently, they are telling us there is absolutely no alternative within the system anymore, and therefore the case for phase transition and system change is all the stronger
I 100% disagree with the phrase that to imagine an alternative is to be deluded; on the contrary, nihilists will never win any political battles, only believers do (even if they can't reach their aims fully, have unintended consequences, etc .. etc ..)
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Peter Waterman <[email protected]> wrote: Wauw! Or not wauw? I think it is pretty much Wauw!
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On 03/08/2015 09:30, Michel Bauwens wrote:
the left no longer believes in any alternative itself, it has become as nihilist as the other side, they can truly no longer imagine an outside to capitalism and have become the other side of the same coin, I agree, from a psychological perspective single-minded persistence in resistance - critique, 'ain't it awful' etc that is not rooted in positive programme, what Gandhi called satyagraha, is likely to mean that we become moulded in the form that is being opposed. And the more so to the extent to which dominance/power over social relations continue to be 'naturalised'. Denis new site text
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