please note hijacking of our address ...
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Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ? On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
http://p2p.foundation.net/Category:Peergovernance
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Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for <http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto <http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work. The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking. What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs. Michel, did you see a scraped version of the <http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from <http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting? - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ... Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ? [ ... ]
p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for <http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto <http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work.
The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking.
What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs.
Michel, did you see a scraped version of the <http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from <http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting?
- Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ?
[ ... ]
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Yes, and Michel your site is far superior! On 19 Feb 2011 18:54, "Samuel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote:
p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for <http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto < http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work.
The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking.
What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs.
Michel, did you see a scraped version of the < http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from < http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting?
- Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ?
[ ... ]
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In this particular case, it appears that someone is squatting on http://foundation.net, a common practice, and the site is set up so that all URLs of form http://*.foundation.net bring up the same material rather than any sort of error page. There's probably not even a foundation.net site, but a shared IP address that is the target of a flock of URLs for the domains being squatted on. The malicious ones could be set up to (1) attempt download of malware -- this could be one of those -- or (2) impersonate a similarly-named site in an effort to perpetrate an identity or account theft. This is evidently not one of the latter and it appears to be an opportunistic sort of spam in the weeds of the web. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Rose [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:49 To: [email protected]; P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ... p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for <http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto <http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work.
The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking.
What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs.
Michel, did you see a scraped version of the <http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from <http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting?
- Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ?
[ ... ]
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yes, some form of spamlinking to obtain visits and present ads I guess .... as there is actually no content ... but the attempt is clearly willfull .. Michel On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for <http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto <http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work.
The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking.
What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs.
Michel, did you see a scraped version of the < http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from < http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting?
- Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ?
[ ... ]
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It is willful with respect to foundation.com but not p2p.foundation.com. If you use any *.foundation.com you will get the same result. It's a wide net. How did you happen to fall into it? I suspect that foundation.com is a relatively valuable property and it is being squatted on for the purpose of making a good sale of the lease at some point. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Michel Bauwens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 17:57 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Cc: Samuel Rose; [email protected] Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ... yes, some form of spamlinking to obtain visits and present ads I guess .... as there is actually no content ... but the attempt is clearly willfull .. Michel On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote: p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for <http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto <http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work. > > The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking. > > What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs. > > Michel, did you see a scraped version of the <http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from <http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting? > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 > To: P2P Foundation mailing list > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ... > > Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ? > > [ ... ] > > > _______________________________________________ > P2P Foundation - Mailing list > http://www.p2pfoundation.net > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > -- -- Sam Rose Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 skype: samuelrose email: [email protected] http://forwardfound.org http://futureforwardinstitute.org http://hollymeadcapital.com http://p2pfoundation.net http://socialmediaclassroom.com "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." - Carl Sagan _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Commons Strategies Group, http://www.commonsstrategies.org/
hi dennis, this link came in via google alert, Michel On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]>wrote:
It is willful with respect to foundation.com but not p2p.foundation.com. If you use any *.foundation.com you will get the same result.
It's a wide net. How did you happen to fall into it?
I suspect that foundation.com is a relatively valuable property and it is being squatted on for the purpose of making a good sale of the lease at some point.
- Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: Michel Bauwens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 17:57 To: P2P Foundation mailing list Cc: Samuel Rose; [email protected] Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
yes, some form of spamlinking to obtain visits and present ads I guess .... as there is actually no content ...
but the attempt is clearly willfull ..
Michel
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > Subdomains are not issued by domain registries. However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone. I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains. These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains. E.g., my domain for < http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as < http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto < http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>. I don't publicize the subdomains because I don't want people to bookmark them: if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work. > > The address has not been hijacked. The address p2p.foundation.net is a different address. If p2pfoundation.net had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking. > > What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page. There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs. > > Michel, did you see a scraped version of the < http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content from < http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting? > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24 > To: P2P Foundation mailing list > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ... > > Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ? > > [ ... ] > >
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hi James, have you followed this? On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ?
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
http://p2p.foundation.net/Category:Peergovernance
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