When I watched Starship Troopers again recently, it occurred to me that the "Federal Network" newsreel formats were reminiscent of a pre-Tim Berners-Lee, pre-Web vision of the Internet as a "Information Superhighway" full of streaming content. It's as if access to the Internet is mediated entirely by AOL -- but an AOL designed by Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes. As a matter of fact the reason I watched the movie again was that I recently read a piece by Mike Masnick speculating on what the Web (if it could even be called that) would have looked like had TBL patented the hyperlink. He said access to the hyperlinked Web would be mediated entirely by walled-garden Internet services like AOL or web portals like Yahoo that could afford to pay royalties. This made me think of those Federal Network newsreels with the "Would you like to know more?" hyperlinks embedded in them. Comments? -- Kevin Carson Research Associate, Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective
despite its fascistic undertones, I really loved that movie ... but Orson Card's Xenocide is better, as it creates sympathy for the Other ... you are right Kevin, this is a vision of a hierarchically controlled internet .. Michel On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Kevin Carson < [email protected]> wrote:
When I watched Starship Troopers again recently, it occurred to me that the "Federal Network" newsreel formats were reminiscent of a pre-Tim Berners-Lee, pre-Web vision of the Internet as a "Information Superhighway" full of streaming content. It's as if access to the Internet is mediated entirely by AOL -- but an AOL designed by Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes.
As a matter of fact the reason I watched the movie again was that I recently read a piece by Mike Masnick speculating on what the Web (if it could even be called that) would have looked like had TBL patented the hyperlink. He said access to the hyperlinked Web would be mediated entirely by walled-garden Internet services like AOL or web portals like Yahoo that could afford to pay royalties. This made me think of those Federal Network newsreels with the "Would you like to know more?" hyperlinks embedded in them.
Comments? -- Kevin Carson Research Associate, Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
despite its fascistic undertones, I really loved that movie ...
I also loved it. I think it was more of a satire on the fascistic undertones than anything.
but Orson Card's Xenocide is better, as it creates sympathy for the Other
I like Card as well, but he is a huge neocon on foreign policy issues. That comes out in his treatment of a lot of things in the Ender universe, like the past world war against Islam and the Hegemon. -- Kevin Carson Research Associate, Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective
Card = mormon conservatism? yes, you are right, I've read some stuff on the internet showing that side of his ideas ... On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Kevin Carson < [email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
despite its fascistic undertones, I really loved that movie ...
I also loved it. I think it was more of a satire on the fascistic undertones than anything.
but Orson Card's Xenocide is better, as it creates sympathy for the Other
I like Card as well, but he is a huge neocon on foreign policy issues. That comes out in his treatment of a lot of things in the Ender universe, like the past world war against Islam and the Hegemon.
-- Kevin Carson Research Associate, Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective
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Excerpts from Michel Bauwens's message of Fri Sep 16 02:27:03 +0000 2011:
despite its fascistic undertones, I really loved that movie ...
*** That's because it's part of what makes it fun: the Federation in Starship Troopers is a sarcastic parody of religious-military fascism; what we already have now, except we're missing spaceship and the bugs, and of course Admiral Omar Anoke. Courage, duty, Honor! http://starshiptroopers.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_A_Good_Day_To_Die == hk
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