and it scared me...Gregarious animals do it...Those in our society who will understand the power of collaboration and will master the grammar of swarms will adopt their behavior to increase their chance of success, and that can come to the detriment of any one else, or any organization that stands in their way. It's game theory...Trust is not important in large scale p2p systems. Those who understand the p2p economics will adopt this behavior, they will act stigmergically, and as they reach the critical mass they become an attractor, imposing norms and culture to new comers, growing by feeding on its success. We see this with Bitcion.That is good news if we think about the scaling and spreading of p2p. It can be a quite fast phenomena.Can that stigmergy create swarms that don't follow good ethics and justice? Michel asked me a similar question here.My answer was that the majority of people would opt out in a open (voluntary) system. My argument has always been that Wikipedia is a proof that humans are in majority good, otherwise the bad guys would overpower the good ones in an open system like Wikipedia, and it could not exist. But Wikipedia is a specific context. It doesn't offer incentives to go against good content.Will people have the choice to opt out when the sward driven by a specific set of incentives will give them two choices - live with us or suffer. Street gangs operate that way... it is hard to chose the third option, which is to opt out, get out of the hood, get an education or a job.hmmmmm...Is a violet swarm more damaging than classical violent phenomena?Are we going to see swarms going at each others, keeping social stability?Are we going to see Anonimous against a legion or dark hackers swarming at each others.What is social clash going to look like in the future?Or I am a bit paranoia tonight? : )I need to admit that I am instinctively using some of that to "punish" those who step out of the line, who don't attribute authorship for example, who don't respect the 10 commandments, I do that from my personal frustration and to preserve the network, and I learned how to do it in a way that generates peer pressure. All the past SENSORICA conflicts were solved in this way. essentially swarming the bad guy to the edges of the network, through peer pressure or by mass ignoring the person. It uses the reputation system, and there's a way to do it very effectively. Now, believe me, I am acting to preserve SENSORICA from sharks and freeloaders. It is still an art, but I feel that this can be very well formalized, which can become a formidable social weapon.--t!b!co-founder of SENSORICA,an open, decentralized and self-organizingvalue network (an open enterprise)founder of Multitude ProjectFacebook Tiberius BrastaviceanuTwitter @TiberiusB