the way I see it is, we need to gradually strenghten the new sphere within the old, before a fully qualitative system change can occur,  i.e. political and social revolutions, which can be 'peaceful' as in the East European case, come at the end, not at the beginning,

they are 'organic' events, and their level of violence does not depend on the mass of the people who want a more just system, but on the willingness of the old system to submit to the change (for example, the lack of fighting spirit in the soviet elites, who had seen the limits of their own system)

Michel


> On 7 aug. 2016, at 04:33, Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In my opinion "reformism" and gradualism are two entirely different
> things -- the difference being that the later envisons a transition to
> a system that is fundamentally different, but simply sees the
> transition as a medium- or long-term process, whereas the former wants
> to stabilize and ameliorate the existing system of power.
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