I agree with both you Brian and Michel about the historic chance rising. At the same time, the developments like Gaza and Ukraine are closely linked to tightening fronts between Brics on the one hand and the Old West on the other, and this negative developments (crisis) is dialectically tied to positive things (opportunist): as productive networks and lessons learned coming together creating accelerating synergy. Grassroots projects, activists, hackers, workers, farmers, interlocking nodes,.. Of course not smooth and easy at all, painful repeat of past mistakes, personality faults, communication problems, infiltration and sabotages.. But if there is a sincere open p2p dialogue, self reflection and open learning we can create something impressive and unexpected.I think the growing exchange on the new semi-periphery is quite interesting especially reading together with David Harvey's New Imperialism, Kees van der Pijl's Global Rivalries, William Robinson-Jerry Harris' global capitalismArguments and William Carroll's book 'the making of the transnational capitalist class'. To know the enemy better and see its weakness and strengths, but also it help us to evaluate our selves and our alliances.The CiC text and collaboration is intriguing Michel, really liked it. I just realized that towards the labour world, or unions transformation I have also been developing a similar quantum strategy: while supporting change agents in established unions with as positive as possible input, I thought the real push needs to come from outside the unions; as it happened before, success of IWW was the external push on craft unions to renew them selves.So what I see great in your and p2p f's approach and strategy is not one dimensional, so not statist (based only on the partner state) but praxis outside and beyond the state as well.In this context, we have some further steps taken in the design of Sayus project: fusing GNUnion in one project concept, working semi-intensely on we page: saysus.netAnd registered the project to CIC's amazing CoopFunding initiative: http://www.coopfunding.net/en/Best, Orsanagreed Brian,a imperfect analysis that I wrote a few years ago and that jibes with the K-wave timing, http://p2pfoundation.net/Russia_and_the_Next_Long_Wavemy opinion is that the midwave crisis point (to be compared to 1973-74 in the last one) of the next k-wave, is when the huge opportunity will arise, and in the meantime we have to maximalize the conditions (even if it weren't to happen and we have to survive in something much worse than capitalism)here is the as yet unpublished text of our strategic agreement with the Catalan Integral Cooperative, after a previous accord with the post-growth alliance, we welcome other players to join these huge but necessary efforts:
Michel Bauwens6th August 2014
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com> wrote:On 08/02/2014 01:29 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:Minqi Li's claim is that too many formerly peripheral countries -- especially the giants, India and China -- have moved into the position of what the world systems theorists call "semi-peripheral" countries, supplying mid-range or partially elaborated products to the central, high-technology producers. The result is a declining pool of people to exploit, both in terms of labor and resources, and in terms of defenseless markets that must necessarily buy products from the center. When large percentages of the world population have access to at least mid-level producer technology, capital can no longer accumulate at the former centers, whose power declines. The current state of affairs in Western Europe and the US/Canada seems to bear this thesis out.
I have one question, you say Minqi Li says there is no longer a reserve
periphery .. but what about Africa ? (and the rise of latin america in
the naugthies ?)
http://p2pfoundation.net/Rise_of_China_and_the_Demise_of_the_Capitalist_World-Economy
In such a perspective, Michel, your ideas and those of everyone working on p2p and commons approaches become far more pertinent. When the centers of capital accumulation can off the fruits of very high technology to all of those, across the world, who rise into the middle classes, then there is scant likelihood of winning them over to a cooperative approach -- the powers of capitalist seduction are just too strong. Yet in a condition of long-term stagnation, coupled with environmental threats stemming directly and visibly from capital accumulation, alternative proposals may become much more attractive across a flattening global hierarchy.
Of course I agree with Orsan that everything possible must always be tried right now. But it is encouraging to realize that over the middle term, there are some dynamics going our way. It is tough to sustain the fascist-type solution for very long. Too many people have too much agency, even under severe conditions. If it is true that capitalism can no longer produce employment of even the precarious kind that prevailed under the last cycle, then there is really room for something new under the sun, that's what I see as an historic chance.
warmly, Brian
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