Our second episode of our podcast Imagine with Us is out and yes, it’s available on Apple podcasts now too! In addition to listening on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google podcasts and more, you can also click here to listen. In this episode, Why aren’t more people progressive? Part 2, we step back and look at the dynamics of human life in the past 10,000 years that continue to shape how we understand our options for achieving security, safety, and peace. We then move to a discussion of the importance of building a social change movement that moves social energy from fear to hope and builds a loving community so more people are inspired to participate and join us. Please rate and follow us on your favorite podcast platform and share it on social media and with your friends. It’s an easy way for folks to hear our ideas and learn more about our work and get involved if they want. | 
