personally, I believe that extractive models are inappropriate for the survival of our planet, and I would like to see corporate reform towards generative models,

this would suggest a double strategy:

* direct support for not-for-profit entities that directly co-produce commons and integrate negative externalities

* corporate reforms that limit the damage of negative externalities at for-profit corporations

Move towards commoning in extractive corporations is a progress, to the degree they can also affect the extractive purpose, but if they only serve intensified extraction, that would be problematic,

Michel

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM, George Pór <george.por@gmail.com> wrote:
Michel, would that be that there's no room for-profits in the Plan C or, more broadly,  in the Commons Transitions? I doubt that that's what you meant,

But if there's, wouldn't help if workers there too learn working without bosses?

george

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On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel@p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
agreed, buurtzorg is different than a classic forprofit entity (with extractive I mean that, not mining <g>)

please go head by asking James,

Michel

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:04 PM, George Pór <george.por@gmail.com> wrote:
hi Michel,
 
i have not read the book but my impression is that it is exclusively focused on entities that have extractive practices ?

I'm not sure. 

Most of them have nothing to do the extensive extraction of natural resources, unless we include all organizations, who are using products or services whose the ingredients were ultimately extracted from the Earth, after a long chain of of intermediate companies

For example. the book features a Buurtzorg, a self-managed community nursing organizations in the Netherlands. It's worth a read.

Btw, the "Plan C for Advancing the Commons Transition in Greece" seems to be more important and urgent than ever, given the vacuum that rift in the "institutions' may deepen.

Shouldn't we ask Quilligan to give Plan C a hand?

george



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