thanks for the further details,

Sam, would you know how tarpipe differs from yahoo pipes?

Michel

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose@gmail.com> wrote:
A cursory overview of both:

1. Tarpipe costs money for any kind of serious use. Although, the
price is reasonable per resources that will likely be used. I didn't
sign up for free account version, because it didn't seem worth it to
me. So, I have no real evaluation of it.

2. ifttt.org is not yet launched and requires an invitation. (I requested one)



On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Robin,
>
> James and colleagues, I'm really interested in going one notch higher in
> terms of our digital curation,
>
> please also check tarpipe and ifft, and tell me what you think,
>
> robin, what did you find best?
>
> Michel
>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Robin Good <Robin.Good@masternewmedia.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, tarpipe is very interesting.
>> You can check a similar service also called http://ifttt.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Robin
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks dante,
>>>
>>> Dear Robin,
>>>
>>> I recommended Hajnalka to pose her question to Quora, but I can't find
>>> the invite button,
>>>
>>> and this is for personal reply: have you tried tarpipe? seems ideal for
>>> the kind of work we are doing at the p2p foundation, have you tried it?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>> <dante.monson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely Fantastic Michel !
>>>>
>>>> Thank you sharing your overview - for your guidance.
>>>> I hope I can join Hajnalka in a mutually emulating process.
>>>> I will recommend her to use a wiki - or the p2pf wiki.
>>>> best
>>>> dante
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Michel Bauwens
>>>> <michelsub2004@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Hajnalka,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are really many strands in this, and I advice you to join Quora,
>>>>> a q and a community that answers questions like this,
>>>>>
>>>>> - have a look at http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Intelligence, for
>>>>> the collective intelligence approach, with people like Georrge Por, Noubel,
>>>>> etc ...
>>>>>
>>>>> - the cosmopolitanism approach with people like (Edith) Kaldor (see
>>>>> http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Cosmopolitanism)
>>>>>
>>>>> - the integral approach, i.e.. takes on the evolution of consciousness,
>>>>> like Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology, with all the mappings of authors on
>>>>> the evolution of consciousness
>>>>>
>>>>> - the 'new left' approaches, both the Negri/Hardt Empire vs Multitudes,
>>>>> and the neo-Tardean approaches such as Maurizio Lazzarato
>>>>>
>>>>> - the global commons approaches with James Quilligan and others
>>>>>
>>>>> - recentering global society towards civil society and global action
>>>>> networks (marvin brown and others)
>>>>>
>>>>> - my own approach towards global open design communities and phyles
>>>>> (david de ugarte)
>>>>>
>>>>> That's those I'm familiar with ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally would use the metagovernance framing of bob jessop,
>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Metagovernance, to organize all these strands
>>>>> together, and/or some form of WIlber AQAL quadrants
>>>>>
>>>>> My own material on Global Governance will be included in
>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Governance and
>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell us more on what you already have, and on your own approach, and
>>>>> put a wiki for your research, (you can use the p2p-f wiki for that, that
>>>>> would motivate me to help you more, as it would benefit the whole community)
>>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
>>>>> From the policy page:
>>>>>
>>>>> Key concepts [2] for a Global Common Wealth:
>>>>>
>>>>> Introduction by James Quilligan: Beyond State Capitalism: The Commons
>>>>> Economy in our Lifetimes. [3]
>>>>>
>>>>> Establishing Global Common Goods and a Commons Reserve Currency
>>>>> The Co-Governance and Co-Production of the Commons through Commons
>>>>> Trusts on the basis of Social Charters
>>>>> Replacing the scarcity-engineering of neoliberal markets by the
>>>>> abundance engineering of the commons, see the Abundance - Typology and the
>>>>> Wealth Typology
>>>>>
>>>>> Global Commons and Participatory International Systems
>>>>>
>>>>> Global Commons and Common Sense. Jorge Buzaglo. real-world economics
>>>>> review, issue no. 51 [12] : policy proposals for a global governance of
>>>>> planetary commons
>>>>> Four Principles and Corollaries of Network Society and the New
>>>>> International Governance. By by Alexander Schellong, Philipp Mueller. [13]
>>>>> Hilary Cottam on Participatory Global Governance Systems: Winter 2010
>>>>> (Vol.XXXI. No 4) edition of the Harvard International Review. [14]
>>>>> Philipp Mueller on Planetary Public Policy‎ and Open Statecraft
>>>>> Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks
>>>>> Developing the Meta Services for the Eco-Social Economy: on developing
>>>>> a framework for an eco-social economy - includings its arrangements to
>>>>> manage natural commons. Text proposed by Feasta, Ireland. By Brian Davey
>>>>> with the assistance of John Jopling.
>>>>>
>>>>> [edit] Alex Evans
>>>>>
>>>>> Shooting the Rapids: "argues that the key challenge is to join up the
>>>>> dots between the institutions, processes and actors that we have now. Part
>>>>> of this task involves expanding the scope of multilateralism to engage much
>>>>> more intensively with non-state actors"
>>>>> Multilateralism for an Age of Scarcity: paper uses the shared operating
>>>>> system / shared awareness / shared platforms framework (follow-up of
>>>>> Shooting the Rapids)
>>>>>
>>>>> [edit] James Greyson
>>>>>
>>>>> See: Seven Policy Switches for strategic change on a planetary level
>>>>>
>>>>> [edit] James Quilligan
>>>>>
>>>>> Toward a Commons-based Framework for Global Negotiations
>>>>> People Sharing Resources. Toward a New Multilateralism of the Global
>>>>> Commons. James Bernard Quilligan Kosmos Journal, Fall | Winter 2009: this
>>>>> article frames what a global commons-based policy and governance structure
>>>>> should be.
>>>>>
>>>>> [edit] Towards Open Civil Societies
>>>>>
>>>>> See the work of Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>>>> <dante.monson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Hajnalka, ( cc: Michel, Charles, Trey )
>>>>>> I add Trey, Charles and Michel ( and also check out the
>>>>>> p2pfoundation.net wiki )
>>>>>> as I know that each of them reads a lot and has a overview on
>>>>>> available books which can be related to
>>>>>> the topic of research for your thesis :
>>>>>> quoting you
>>>>>> Thesis on " The emergence of global consciousness and its impact on
>>>>>> the system of
>>>>>> global governance. "
>>>>>> " plus I got also some really good tips from other people I
>>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was sure
>>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from a
>>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs. "
>>>>>> Personally, I read very few books.
>>>>>> I have no money to buy books, and up until a few months ago, I was
>>>>>> homeless.
>>>>>> I do not accumulate any papers - all I need can be contained in one
>>>>>> bag, even now that I have my own flat.
>>>>>> I might start reading books again when I will access certain
>>>>>> specialized private libraries here in Brussels. ( I'm thinking about
>>>>>> http://fo.am , or the http://financite.be library )
>>>>>> I do remember I was attending some courses in the field of
>>>>>> cybernetics, by prof. Heylighen.
>>>>>> http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/heyl.html
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Heylighen
>>>>>> At that time ( 10 years ago ), I was interested in
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocybernetics
>>>>>> Although I guess you already have such kind of academic connections
>>>>>> and influences.
>>>>>> I also add Charles in cc, as I know he reads a lot too, and might know
>>>>>> some books that interest you.  Charles also likes to keep contact with
>>>>>> schools of design thinking, and I went with him to a design school in
>>>>>> Potsdam
>>>>>> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/d_school/home.html?L=1
>>>>>> If you want to come to Brussels to do research for your thesis, I
>>>>>> could also recommend you to take contact with http://fo.am , more
>>>>>> particularly Maja and Nik : "Maja Kuzmanovic" <maja@fo.am>, <nik@fo.am>,
>>>>>> Foam is a cultural research and rather avant gardist thinking place.
>>>>>>  In case Maja and Nik would be interested, I imagine there is the potential
>>>>>> for you to do a residency there, as there is - a really nice - living space
>>>>>> within the research center.
>>>>>> Perhaps you can even find a grant for it ( or just do it without grant
>>>>>> ), so you have the time to read all the books in their library ( interesting
>>>>>> books ! )
>>>>>> If you want to do a residency in Berlin or Potsdam ( at the school of
>>>>>> design thinking ? )
>>>>>> I also have the feeling it could be a possibility.
>>>>>> Personally, I plan to keep a base in Brussels, and develop another
>>>>>> base in Berlin and/or Leipzig, and live between the two.
>>>>>> Hugs
>>>>>> Dante
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Hajnalka Szarvas
>>>>>> <hajnalkaszarvas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Dante,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how are you? I hope everything is fine over there. Are you in
>>>>>>> Brussels? This time I am writing to you, since perhaps I have already
>>>>>>> mentioned I am writing my thesis, again:) But a new one, I mean for a
>>>>>>> different Master program. And its , the new one's title is The
>>>>>>> emergence of global consciousness and its impact on the system of
>>>>>>> global governance. Could you please give me some advice what would be
>>>>>>> interesting to read for that? I have of course an advisor a really
>>>>>>> good one, plus I got also some really good tipps from other people I
>>>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was sure
>>>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from a
>>>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So thanks in advance if you have any idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> by the way how is your projects are going? I wish you many success in
>>>>>>> these, and I also wish you to find your way and home in the side of
>>>>>>> someone who really loves you, since you deserve it, and it would be
>>>>>>> good to know for me, that you are happy with someone, who takes care
>>>>>>> on you:)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care:)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a wonderful day, tomorrow:)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hajnalka:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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