any biblio for guidance?
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel@p2pfoundation.net> wrote:I can imagine. I think if you are interested in network theory, it is
> thanks Sam,
>
> this may be the case, but I see a lot of network theory literature, for
> example the much cited Reed's law, which ignores human volition ..
>
definitely worth knowing the complex systems thinkers from throughout
the 1980's to present (if you do not already). Lots of great useful
work there.
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> <michel@p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>> > Dear TOmas,
>> >
>> > This is quite important in my opinion with network theory finally
>> > including
>> > human volition and abandoning reductionism,
>> >
>> > I really hope you can look into this for discussion at our blog,
>> >
>> > see http://gfbertini.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/wisdom-about-crowds/ ;
>> > http://www.economist.com/node/18584096?story_id=18584096&fsrc=rss
>> >
>> >
>> > Existing models of crowd behaviour do just that. They treat moving
>> > masses
>> > of humanity as though they were fluids. This works, up to a point. But
>> > it
>> > often fails to predict the changes that happen as a crowd’s density
>> > increases and its movement becomes chaotic. That is why Mehdi Moussaid
>> > of
>> > Paul Sabatier University, in Toulouse, and his colleagues have made a
>> > radical innovation. Instead of treating the individual human beings in a
>> > crowd as if they were molecules, they have treated them as if they were
>> > human beings. They have, in other words, given them volition. Of course,
>> > the
>> > objective of someone in a moving crowd is usually fairly simple—to get
>> > somewhere and then stay there. But it is an objective, nevertheless.
>> >
>>
>> Unless I am really missing something, this is absolutely not anything
>> new in the world of network sciences and complex systems
>> science/modeling/theory. In fact, practically every agent based
>> complex systems model applies simple rules to the agents and then runs
>> the model to see what will happen. This goes all the way back to John
>> Holland, Robert Axelrod, and others who pioneered complex systems
>> models. Read the article on The Economist itself to see why I am
>> having this reaction:
>> http://www.economist.com/node/18584096?story_id=18584096&fsrc=rss
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