Subject:
Re: letting the heart sing
From:
Denis Postle <denis@postle.net>
Date:
14/03/2007 10:15
To:
Anthony Crouch <anthonyc@cpcab.co.uk>

I thought re: some of what you say below... that I'd mention that I have a half formed project to make Letting the Heart Sing CDROM version available on the the web. Since the CDROM edition was devised broad band has emerged and I feel that a more prescriptive front end to the material on the CD is needed ( or at least I've picked up significant resistance in users to the amount of self-direction that it entails)

The net front end would be a web 'course' that directs the user to LTHS pages of an uploaded complete version of the CDROM and the overall site is currently framed as Who Am I?

If you were interested in collaborating or supporting this that would be welcome.

The other thought that recurs and which has shaped a lot of my attitude to counselling and psychotherapy and its regualtion is that in the interests of extending what I prefer to call emotional competence to many more people promoting and teaching cocounselling would be an essential and well 'good enough'.

Anthony Crouch wrote:

Dear Denis

Please can you send both copies to the following address:

Orchard Neville House, Ham St, Baltonsborough, Somerset BA6 8QQ

I've been researching good "self-development" books (such as yours) but can only really find a handful - years ago we used to use your original Mind Gym as a "textbook" on our training programmes. The machinations of the counselling and psychotherapy profession are part of a stimulus for my growing interest in facilitating "self-development" in a broad fashion - within which counselling and psychotherapy play an important part, but only a part. I had a quick look at the summary of your forthcoming book: CPCAB staff (including myself) might well find it interesting. I have a book that I wrote 10 years ago - Inside Counselling - which you might, or might not, like.

A while ago Elmer (referred to me by David Wasdell) came to visit us here at Orchard Neville - I hope he's well and filming lots of interesting projects. Its taken us a while but our diversification plans (film-wise) are about to come to fruition. CPCAB is only one step towards the fulfillment of my "vision": to play what part I can in helping us become more psychologically aware, more psychologically literate. As Al Gore briefly points out in his recent dox: 21st century technology in the hands of people who haven't really "moved with the times" - yet he, and everyone else it seems, are still only looking for eco-technical solutions.

In fact I have just returned from an advanced directing workshop in London and really should be in bed - I only turned on the computer to back up a failing palm top computer.

With best wishes

Anthony

CPCAB Philosophy

  1. Recognising that we are different and diverse and that we have to work hard to truly listen and understand.
  2. Learning not to hide and pretend, but to become more open about our failings and our mistakes: so that we can genuinely learn and develop.
  3. Working together in partnership - embodying a model of authority that listens and challenges and empowers.
  4. Valuing the emotional and the spiritual sides of ourselves as highly as the rational.
  5. Accepting that the heart of our work is the hurt in our own hearts - the rage and disappointment and sadness and viciousness and, in working together, the potential to reawaken love, caring and a joie de vivre.
  6. Understanding that counselling and human relations work is founded in subjective, intimate relationship and that, in turn, counselling and human relations training is necessarily founded in subjective, intimate relationship.
  7. Staying in genuine touch with, remaining genuinely caring of and being genuinely committed to the people that we are working with.
  8. Recognising and bearing the heavy responsibility of our work - because we value it so highly.
  9. Learning, in moments of crisis, to reach out from the heart - offering and asking for help and support.
  10. Being ourselves, meaning what we say, saying what we mean, walking our talk.

On 9 Mar 2007, at 15:00, Denis Postle wrote:

Hello Anthony,
Yes I can let you have a Mac copy of Letting the Heart Sing - The Mind Gymnasium
Do you want me to send it to cpcab? i.e.

PO BOX 1768
Glastonbury
Somerset
BA6 8YP
United Kingdom

While the PC version is entirely problem free, due apparently to the many different states of the Mac operating system some people have had difficulties with the Mac version and we stopped distributing it. In principle it is OK in practice it might not run on your machine.  So... it comes  free in the first place, if it works alright then you can pay me for it, currently £20. And if not, if you have a current Mac it will probably read the PC disk anyway, I'll send copies of both.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

You (and CPCAB) might also be interested in my forthcoming book from PCCS books Regulating the Psychological Therapies - from taxonomy to taxidermy  a collection of my writing about the  professionalisation of counselling and psychotherapy over the last 16-17 years, available later this month.


Greetings


Denis

Anthony Crouch wrote:
Dear Denis Postle

I am interested in purchasing a mac version of your CD (personal edition).

With best wishes



-- 
Greetings

Denis
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Hello Richard and Guy,

One of my correspondents sent me this agenda for a forthcoming meeting of the London Society of the New Lacanian School about SR, note para 2!

Love


Denis

___________________________

Dear Colleagues,

As previously announced, members of the London Society are invited to
discuss
the process of the implementation of the HPC order of 2001, setting out the
conditions of practice for the 'psychological therapies'.

The meeting will commence at 2pm, in room 541 at Birkbeck.

- Attached are some documents that may assist you to prepare for the
discussion.
- Below is a draft of the points that the meeting will aim to touch on.

1 - A summary of the legislative framework so far.
a) HPO2001,
b) BACP/UKCP scoping project and ALP/LS's involvement,
and the Foster/Donaldson reports and ALP/LS's involvement.
c) SfH's standards consultancy,
The House of Lords debate.


2 - Positions of the main players:
Government and the NHS/NICE clinical guidelines
BPS, UKCP, BACP, IPA, IPN and Ipnosis web-site

3 - The White Paper
The interview with Andy Burnham. (Minister of State for Health.
The meeting of the reference group on March 29th.
Contact with Vincent Cable

4 - Regulation in the context of global discourses and agendas.
Towards the articulation of an on-going critique of regulation: it's
imperatives, assumptions, politics and processes.

Regards,

Penny Georgiou
Chair
London Society of the NLS

_____________________________


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Thanks for the message that the Mac version of LTHS works and for the payment.

I'd previously written but not sent the following:

re: some of what you say below... I thought that I'd mention that I have a half-formed project to make Letting the Heart Sing CDROM version available on the the web. Since the CDROM edition was devised broad band has emerged and I feel that a more prescriptive front end to the material on the CD is needed ( or at least I've picked up significant resistance in users to the amount of self-direction that it presently entails)

The net front end would be a web 'course' that directs the user to LTHS pages of an uploaded complete version of the CDROM. The overall site is currently framed as 'Who Am I?'

If you were interested in collaborating or supporting something like this that would be welcome.

The other thought that recurs and which has shaped a lot of my attitude to counselling and psychotherapy and its regulation is that, in the interests of extending what I prefer to call emotional competence to many more people, promoting and teaching cocounselling would be essential and well 'good enough'.

If any of this seems appetising or relevant perhaps we could take it further. I would anyway be interested to hear how the CDROM sits with you.

Greetings


Denis


Anthony Crouch wrote:

Dear Denis

Please can you send both copies to the following address:

Orchard Neville House, Ham St, Baltonsborough, Somerset BA6 8QQ

I've been researching good "self-development" books (such as yours) but can only really find a handful - years ago we used to use your original Mind Gym as a "textbook" on our training programmes. The machinations of the counselling and psychotherapy profession are part of a stimulus for my growing interest in facilitating "self-development" in a broad fashion - within which counselling and psychotherapy play an important part, but only a part. I had a quick look at the summary of your forthcoming book: CPCAB staff (including myself) might well find it interesting. I have a book that I wrote 10 years ago - Inside Counselling - which you might, or might not, like.

A while ago Elmer (referred to me by David Wasdell) came to visit us here at Orchard Neville - I hope he's well and filming lots of interesting projects. Its taken us a while but our diversification plans (film-wise) are about to come to fruition. CPCAB is only one step towards the fulfillment of my "vision": to play what part I can in helping us become more psychologically aware, more psychologically literate. As Al Gore briefly points out in his recent dox: 21st century technology in the hands of people who haven't really "moved with the times" - yet he, and everyone else it seems, are still only looking for eco-technical solutions.

In fact I have just returned from an advanced directing workshop in London and really should be in bed - I only turned on the computer to back up a failing palm top computer.

With best wishes

Anthony

CPCAB Philosophy

  1. Recognising that we are different and diverse and that we have to work hard to truly listen and understand.
  2. Learning not to hide and pretend, but to become more open about our failings and our mistakes: so that we can genuinely learn and develop.
  3. Working together in partnership - embodying a model of authority that listens and challenges and empowers.
  4. Valuing the emotional and the spiritual sides of ourselves as highly as the rational.
  5. Accepting that the heart of our work is the hurt in our own hearts - the rage and disappointment and sadness and viciousness and, in working together, the potential to reawaken love, caring and a joie de vivre.
  6. Understanding that counselling and human relations work is founded in subjective, intimate relationship and that, in turn, counselling and human relations training is necessarily founded in subjective, intimate relationship.
  7. Staying in genuine touch with, remaining genuinely caring of and being genuinely committed to the people that we are working with.
  8. Recognising and bearing the heavy responsibility of our work - because we value it so highly.
  9. Learning, in moments of crisis, to reach out from the heart - offering and asking for help and support.
  10. Being ourselves, meaning what we say, saying what we mean, walking our talk.

On 9 Mar 2007, at 15:00, Denis Postle wrote:

Hello Anthony,
Yes I can let you have a Mac copy of Letting the Heart Sing - The Mind Gymnasium
Do you want me to send it to cpcab? i.e.

PO BOX 1768
Glastonbury
Somerset
BA6 8YP
United Kingdom

While the PC version is entirely problem free, due apparently to the many different states of the Mac operating system some people have had difficulties with the Mac version and we stopped distributing it. In principle it is OK in practice it might not run on your machine.  So... it comes  free in the first place, if it works alright then you can pay me for it, currently £20. And if not, if you have a current Mac it will probably read the PC disk anyway, I'll send copies of both.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

You (and CPCAB) might also be interested in my forthcoming book from PCCS books Regulating the Psychological Therapies - from taxonomy to taxidermy  a collection of my writing about the  professionalisation of counselling and psychotherapy over the last 16-17 years, available later this month.


Greetings


Denis

Anthony Crouch wrote:
Dear Denis Postle

I am interested in purchasing a mac version of your CD (personal edition).

With best wishes






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Hello Anthony,

Thanks for the message that the Mac version of LTHS works and for the payment.

I'd previously written but not sent the following:

re: some of what you say below... I thought that I'd mention that I have a half-formed project to make Letting the Heart Sing CDROM version available on the the web.

Since the CDROM edition was devised broadband has emerged and I feel that a more prescriptive front end to the material on the CD is needed (or at least I've picked up some resistance in users to the amount of self-direction that it presently entails)

The net front end would be a web 'course' that directs the user to LTHS pages of an uploaded complete version of the CDROM material. The overall site is currently framed as 'Who Am I?'

If you were interested in collaborating or supporting something like this that would be welcome.

The other thought that recurs and which has shaped a lot of my attitude to counselling and psychotherapy and its regulation is that, in the interests of extending what I prefer to call emotional competence to many more people, promoting and teaching cocounselling would be essential and well 'good enough'.

If any of this seems appetising or relevant perhaps we could take it further. I would anyway be interested to hear how the CDROM sits with you.

Greetings


Denis


Anthony Crouch wrote:

Dear Denis

Please can you send both copies to the following address:

Orchard Neville House, Ham St, Baltonsborough, Somerset BA6 8QQ

I've been researching good "self-development" books (such as yours) but can only really find a handful - years ago we used to use your original Mind Gym as a "textbook" on our training programmes. The machinations of the counselling and psychotherapy profession are part of a stimulus for my growing interest in facilitating "self-development" in a broad fashion - within which counselling and psychotherapy play an important part, but only a part. I had a quick look at the summary of your forthcoming book: CPCAB staff (including myself) might well find it interesting. I have a book that I wrote 10 years ago - Inside Counselling - which you might, or might not, like.

A while ago Elmer (referred to me by David Wasdell) came to visit us here at Orchard Neville - I hope he's well and filming lots of interesting projects. Its taken us a while but our diversification plans (film-wise) are about to come to fruition. CPCAB is only one step towards the fulfillment of my "vision": to play what part I can in helping us become more psychologically aware, more psychologically literate. As Al Gore briefly points out in his recent dox: 21st century technology in the hands of people who haven't really "moved with the times" - yet he, and everyone else it seems, are still only looking for eco-technical solutions.

In fact I have just returned from an advanced directing workshop in London and really should be in bed - I only turned on the computer to back up a failing palm top computer.

With best wishes

Anthony

CPCAB Philosophy

  1. Recognising that we are different and diverse and that we have to work hard to truly listen and understand.
  2. Learning not to hide and pretend, but to become more open about our failings and our mistakes: so that we can genuinely learn and develop.
  3. Working together in partnership - embodying a model of authority that listens and challenges and empowers.
  4. Valuing the emotional and the spiritual sides of ourselves as highly as the rational.
  5. Accepting that the heart of our work is the hurt in our own hearts - the rage and disappointment and sadness and viciousness and, in working together, the potential to reawaken love, caring and a joie de vivre.
  6. Understanding that counselling and human relations work is founded in subjective, intimate relationship and that, in turn, counselling and human relations training is necessarily founded in subjective, intimate relationship.
  7. Staying in genuine touch with, remaining genuinely caring of and being genuinely committed to the people that we are working with.
  8. Recognising and bearing the heavy responsibility of our work - because we value it so highly.
  9. Learning, in moments of crisis, to reach out from the heart - offering and asking for help and support.
  10. Being ourselves, meaning what we say, saying what we mean, walking our talk.

On 9 Mar 2007, at 15:00, Denis Postle wrote:

Hello Anthony,
Yes I can let you have a Mac copy of Letting the Heart Sing - The Mind Gymnasium
Do you want me to send it to cpcab? i.e.

PO BOX 1768
Glastonbury
Somerset
BA6 8YP
United Kingdom

While the PC version is entirely problem free, due apparently to the many different states of the Mac operating system some people have had difficulties with the Mac version and we stopped distributing it. In principle it is OK in practice it might not run on your machine.  So... it comes  free in the first place, if it works alright then you can pay me for it, currently £20. And if not, if you have a current Mac it will probably read the PC disk anyway, I'll send copies of both.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

You (and CPCAB) might also be interested in my forthcoming book from PCCS books Regulating the Psychological Therapies - from taxonomy to taxidermy  a collection of my writing about the  professionalisation of counselling and psychotherapy over the last 16-17 years, available later this month.


Greetings