I find the Lilly diagram VERY VERY useful, many thanks, it clearly maps out possible differences in giving value to such experiences ...
However, I'm agnostic on them, because whatever their ontological status, they are 'real' experiences and have 'real' meaning. So for the the correct consequence is: 1) acknowledging the experience (eye of spirit); 2) discussing their meaning intersubjectively (eye of mind); 3) assessing their ontological status (eye of matter, the 3 mind theory of Lilly).
I would love to read Luminarium,
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/books/review/luminarium-by-alex-shakar-book-review.html, which directly investigates those issues ...
ha John Lilly (big bouts of nostalgia) ... yes, Richard that really shows (y)our age <g>
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the young amongst us:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly ... can't remember who that was, but I once hadd long conversations with a man who had been Lilly's librarian for years ...
Michel
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