RE: Musix-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 2
Hi Marcos,No offense but are your last two posts meant to mean anything at all?There is no explaination for your commands which would usually result in a action/result.Maybe you could do the following.1. State the problem2. State your fix3. State proposed outcome/resultJust a thought as its pretty pointless to test without a use case.wayne> From: [email protected]> Subject: Musix-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 2> To: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:00:34 +0100> > Send Musix-users mailing list submissions to> [email protected]> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/musix-users> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> [email protected]> > You can reach the person managing the list at> [email protected]> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Musix-users digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. locales problems: please, test and report! (Musix 0.99> development) (Marcos Guglielmetti)> 2. a last time change to musix-desktop-upgrade (Marcos Guglielmetti)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 03:21:52 +0100> From: Marcos Guglielmetti <[email protected]>> Subject: [Musix-users] locales problems: please, test and report!> (Musix 0.99 development)> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> > Spanglish problems will be still there, but I think this new scripts could > solve some of them, also, the Xdialog scripts (knoppix-installer, > netcardconfig, etc) should work better-> > Also, warning messages launching GTK apps from virtual terminals, should > dissapear: try launching GTK apps from mrxvt or xterm or konsole after > installing those packages:> > ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/musix-desktop-upgrade_1.4.deb > ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/musix-bin-scripts_1.4.deb> > (dpki -i musix*)> > then, reboot...> > So, we need to test how german, french, english, italian, portuguese and > spanish works with this new configurations...> > Use the KDM menú to enter in another language, but, test it in english too.> > also, you can install them by> > apt-get update> apt-get install musix-desktop-upgrade musix-bin-scripts> > You can see some info:> apt-cache policy musix-desktop-upgrade > apt-cache show musix-desktop-upgrade > apt-cache policy musix-bin-scripts > apt-cache show musix-bin-scripts> > Well, good luck!> -- > Marcos Guglielmetti > * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre> * CD Donwload: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/)> * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks> * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/> * Reporte de errores a: > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs> *IRC: #musix channel on freenode> * http://autosus.wordpress.com/> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 04:08:00 +0100> From: Marcos Guglielmetti <[email protected]>> Subject: [Musix-users] a last time change to musix-desktop-upgrade> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> > Hi, just to say that we should test musix-desktop-upgrade 1.24 not > musix-desktop-upgrade 1.4> > Bye...> > -- > Marcos Guglielmetti > * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre> * CD Donwload: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/)> * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks> * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/> * Reporte de errores a: > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs> *IRC: #musix channel on freenode> * http://autosus.wordpress.com/> > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Musix GNU+Linux - www.musix.org.ar> Musix-users mailing list> [email protected]> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/musix-users> > > End of Musix-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 2> ******************************************
El Lun 05 Feb 2007 15:17, w a y n e escribió:
Hi Marcos,No offense but are your last two posts meant to mean anything at all?
Yes, just read:
There is no explaination for your commands which would usually result in a action/result.
Well, lets see:
Maybe you could do the following.
1. State the problem
I wrote: "Spanglish problems will be still there, but I think this new scripts could
solve some of them, also, the Xdialog scripts (knoppix-installer, netcardconfig, etc) should work better-
Also, warning messages launching GTK apps from virtual terminals, should dissapear:"
Sorry: maybe I forgot to say some things: * That the english Installer just dissapear because a locale problem, so the new scripts should fix this problem too, because the knoppix-installer uses xdialog too!! (and it uses GTK!) * I am talking about upgraded desktop's scripts: /bin/start* , /root/.icewm/xinit* (you can launch them from a real text console) /bin/kdm* (KDM's Menu launchs them) Also, you can see: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks in the english section.
2. State your fix
" try launching GTK apps from mrxvt or xterm or konsole after
installing those packages:
ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/musix-desktop-upgrade_1.4.deb ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/musix-bin-scripts_1.4.deb "
Those packages have a lot of modified scripts and config files. Install them using dpkg dpkg -i musix-bin-scripts_1.4.deb dpkg -i musix-desktop-upgrade_1.4.deb Well, you must reboot the system or close the Desktop and restart it in english, french, italian, etc. Also, into an installed Musix system, it would be fine to killall X and start the desktop from this scripts: starten startit startde startpt Xdialog uses GTK, so, I am telling you: please, test it! Launch gimp, launch knoppix-installer, knoppix-installeren, test...
3 State proposed outcome/result
Less warning messages from GTK apps, no crash for Xdialog based scripts (knoppix-installer, netcargconfig and so...), better language support (less spanglish results), better franch, portuguese, italian, etc, localization (sorry about my bogus english)... as instance, if you open an Xterm in any languaje but spanish, and then you type "locale", it should not be "es@EURO" locales (but we must test it, because the work it's not finished, and I am working on this). Now: Do you understand me?
Just a thought as its pretty pointless to test without a use case.
OK: my first explanation into the first was a little messy, but the points 1. 2. 3. you proposed were there, maybe you need more info, I am here to explain. Also, maybe it's not so important for you to test this improvements, but it's important for the Musix project and for another people, thanks for your criticism, I welcome the criticism... Regards,
wayne> From: [email protected]> Subject: Musix-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 2> To: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:00:34 +0100> > Send Musix-users mailing list submissions to> [email protected]> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/musix-users> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> [email protected]> > You can reach the person managing the list at> [email protected]> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Musix-users digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. locales problems: please, test and report! (Musix 0.99> development) (Marcos Guglielmetti)> 2. a last time change to musix-desktop-upgrade (Marcos Guglielmetti)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 03:21:52 +0100> From: Marcos Guglielmetti <[email protected]>> Subject: [Musix-users] locales problems: please, test and report!> (Musix 0.99 development)> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> > Spanglish problems will be still there, but I think this new scripts could > solve some of them, also, the Xdialog scripts (knoppix-installer, > netcardconfig, etc) should work better-> > Also, warning messages launching GTK apps from virtual terminals, should > dissapear: try launching GTK apps from mrxvt or xterm or konsole after > installing those packages:> > ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/musix-desktop-upgrade_1.4.deb > ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/musix-bin-scripts_1.4.deb> > (dpki -i musix*)> > then, reboot...> > So, we need to test how german, french, english, italian, portuguese and > spanish works with this new configurations...> > Use the KDM menú to enter in another language, but, test it in english too.> > also, you can install them by> > apt-get update> apt-get install musix-desktop-upgrade musix-bin-scripts> > You can see some info:> apt-cache policy musix-desktop-upgrade > apt-cache show musix-desktop-upgrade > apt-cache policy musix-bin-scripts > apt-cache show musix-bin-scripts> > Well, good luck!> -- > Marcos Guglielmetti > * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre> * CD Donwload: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/)> * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks> * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/> * Reporte de errores a: > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs> *IRC: #musix channel on freenode> * http://autosus.wordpress.com/> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 04:08:00 +0100> From: Marcos Guglielmetti <[email protected]>> Subject: [Musix-users] a last time change to musix-desktop-upgrade> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> > Hi, just to say that we should test musix-desktop-upgrade 1.24 not > musix-desktop-upgrade 1.4> > Bye...> > --
Marcos Guglielmetti > * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre> * CD Donwload: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/)> * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks> * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/> * Reporte de errores a: > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs> *IRC: #musix channel on freenode> * http://autosus.wordpress.com/> > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Musix GNU+Linux - www.musix.org.ar> Musix-users mailing list> [email protected]> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/musix-users> > > End of Musix-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 2>
-- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * CD Donwload: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/) * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode * http://autosus.wordpress.com/
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