Re: [JoPP-Public] [JoPP-Editorial] Membership of jopp editorial group
Thanks Vasilis. You sent to jopp-ed, so cc-ing to jopp-public. cheers Mathieu ________________________________ From: JoPP-Editorial <[email protected]> on behalf of Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 16:47 Cc: Editors JoPP <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [JoPP-Editorial] [JoPP-Public] Membership of jopp editorial group I fully side with Mathieu's proposals. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, 1 May 2020 06:12, Mathieu O'Neil <[email protected]> wrote: PS. Sorry everyone - this was meant to go to jopp-ed. UGH. ________________________________ From: Mathieu O'Neil Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 13:01 To: Journal list <[email protected]> Cc: george dafermos <[email protected]> Subject: Membership of jopp editorial group Hi George, all Since we follow "do-ocratic" principles it seems right to me that George, who is the only person to have expressed support for the evolution of the journal proposal on jopp-public, should formally be invited to join our editors group - all the more so as he edited with Vasilis an issue on policies for the commons and that is part of what we aim to develop. @George: What do you say? @Other ed group members: hope this is OK? We have a process for adding new members to the editorial board: -a board member proposes someone on jopp-public; -he or she briefly introduces themselves and what they intend to contribute; -if no-one objects, after a week, they are included. We don't have a system in place for people joining the editors group (team? do we need a different term?). So far it's been done on a one-to-one basis. However since I've known George for a while I am pretty confident he will not mind being approached semi-publicly (hope I was right George - very sorry if I was wrong!). There is a related issue, common to volunteer projects: people still being included in a group although they have been inactive for a very long time. But, how do we address this? We need to be mindful of people's feelings and approach this in a caring and respectful way. So could we say something like: "Dear X, you have not contributed to discussions on jopp-ed for [one, two?] years. This can only mean you are no longer as interested in this activity as you once were. We understand that other priorities have taken over, which is fine. However we think it would be best for the project if we acted on this and you left the ed group, to make room for new members. We thank you for your many past contributions to the project and wish you the very best." How does everyone feel about this? cheers, Mathieu
Hi all, I agree with George's participation in the editors' group. I would add to the message to inactive participants something like ,"You are still welcome to join us again if your preferences change"... Just to express that the message is not an irreversible decision. Happy Friday for you all, El vie., 1 may. 2020 a las 9:28, Mathieu O'Neil (<[email protected]>) escribió:
Thanks Vasilis.
You sent to jopp-ed, so cc-ing to jopp-public.
cheers Mathieu
------------------------------ *From:* JoPP-Editorial <[email protected]> on behalf of Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]> *Sent:* Friday, May 1, 2020 16:47 *Cc:* Editors JoPP <[email protected]> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Editorial] [JoPP-Public] Membership of jopp editorial group
I fully side with Mathieu's proposals.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, 1 May 2020 06:12, Mathieu O'Neil <[email protected]> wrote:
PS. Sorry everyone - this was meant to go to jopp-ed. UGH.
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*From:* Mathieu O'Neil *Sent:* Friday, May 1, 2020 13:01 *To:* Journal list <[email protected]> *Cc:* george dafermos <[email protected]> *Subject:* Membership of jopp editorial group
Hi George, all
Since we follow "do-ocratic" principles it seems right to me that George, who is the only person to have expressed support for the evolution of the journal proposal on jopp-public, should formally be invited to join our editors group - all the more so as he edited with Vasilis an issue on policies for the commons and that is part of what we aim to develop.
@George: What do you say?
@Other ed group members: hope this is OK?
We have a process for adding new members to the editorial board: -a board member proposes someone on jopp-public; -he or she briefly introduces themselves and what they intend to contribute;
-if no-one objects, after a week, they are included.
We don't have a system in place for people joining the editors group (team? do we need a different term?). So far it's been done on a one-to-one basis. However since I've known George for a while I am pretty confident he will not mind being approached semi-publicly (hope I was right George - very sorry if I was wrong!).
There is a related issue, common to volunteer projects: people still being included in a group although they have been inactive for a very long time. But, how do we address this? We need to be mindful of people's feelings and approach this in a caring and respectful way.
So could we say something like:
"Dear X, you have not contributed to discussions on jopp-ed for [one, two?] years. This can only mean you are no longer as interested in this activity as you once were. We understand that other priorities have taken over, which is fine. However we think it would be best for the project if we acted on this and you left the ed group, to make room for new members. We thank you for your many past contributions to the project and wish you the very best."
How does everyone feel about this?
cheers, Mathieu
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Hi Dafne Good point, thanks! :-) cheers Mathieu ________________________________ From: JoPP-Editorial <[email protected]> on behalf of Dafne Calvo <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 20:04 To: Journal of Peer Production's general and public list <[email protected]> Cc: Journal of Peer Production's Editorial team list <[email protected]>; Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [JoPP-Editorial] [JoPP-Public] Membership of jopp editorial group Hi all, I agree with George's participation in the editors' group. I would add to the message to inactive participants something like ,"You are still welcome to join us again if your preferences change"... Just to express that the message is not an irreversible decision. Happy Friday for you all, El vie., 1 may. 2020 a las 9:28, Mathieu O'Neil (<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>) escribi��: Thanks Vasilis. You sent to jopp-ed, so cc-ing to jopp-public. cheers Mathieu ________________________________ From: JoPP-Editorial <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 16:47 Cc: Editors JoPP <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [JoPP-Editorial] [JoPP-Public] Membership of jopp editorial group I fully side with Mathieu's proposals. �\�\�\�\�\�\�\ Original Message �\�\�\�\�\�\�\ On Friday, 1 May 2020 06:12, Mathieu O'Neil <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: PS. Sorry everyone - this was meant to go to jopp-ed. UGH. ________________________________ From: Mathieu O'Neil Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 13:01 To: Journal list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: george dafermos <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Membership of jopp editorial group Hi George, all Since we follow "do-ocratic" principles it seems right to me that George, who is the only person to have expressed support for the evolution of the journal proposal on jopp-public, should formally be invited to join our editors group - all the more so as he edited with Vasilis an issue on policies for the commons and that is part of what we aim to develop. @George: What do you say? @Other ed group members: hope this is OK? We have a process for adding new members to the editorial board: -a board member proposes someone on jopp-public; -he or she briefly introduces themselves and what they intend to contribute; -if no-one objects, after a week, they are included. We don't have a system in place for people joining the editors group (team? do we need a different term?). So far it's been done on a one-to-one basis. However since I've known George for a while I am pretty confident he will not mind being approached semi-publicly (hope I was right George - very sorry if I was wrong!). There is a related issue, common to volunteer projects: people still being included in a group although they have been inactive for a very long time. But, how do we address this? We need to be mindful of people's feelings and approach this in a caring and respectful way. So could we say something like: "Dear X, you have not contributed to discussions on jopp-ed for [one, two?] years. This can only mean you are no longer as interested in this activity as you once were. We understand that other priorities have taken over, which is fine. However we think it would be best for the project if we acted on this and you left the ed group, to make room for new members. We thank you for your many past contributions to the project and wish you the very best." How does everyone feel about this? cheers, Mathieu _______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public -- "La curiosidad es insubordinaci��n en su m��s pura forma" - Vladimir Nabokov Dafne Calvo PhD Candidate, University of Valladolid [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (PGP<https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x077095145C3D8A88>) Academia<https://uva-es.academia.edu/DafneCalvo> | Scholar <https://scholar.google.es/citations?user=coEvmEQAAAAJ&hl=es&oi=ao> | ORCID <http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0659-6792> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/DafneCalvo> Cartograf��a de las resistencias digitales - MAPA<https://resistenciasdigitales.ushahidi.io/views/map><https://resistenciasdigitales.ushahidi.io/views/map><https://resistenciasdigitales.ushahidi.io/views/map> Grupo de Reflexi��n y Estudio de la Comunicaci��n Online - GRECO<http://comdig.blogs.uva.es/>
Sounds reasonable. On Sat, May 2, 2020, 00:24 Mathieu O'Neil <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dafne
Good point, thanks! :-)
cheers Mathieu
------------------------------ *From:* JoPP-Editorial <[email protected]> on behalf of Dafne Calvo <[email protected]> *Sent:* Friday, May 1, 2020 20:04 *To:* Journal of Peer Production's general and public list < [email protected]> *Cc:* Journal of Peer Production's Editorial team list < [email protected]>; Vasilis Kostakis < [email protected]> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Editorial] [JoPP-Public] Membership of jopp editorial group
Hi all,
I agree with George's participation in the editors' group.
I would add to the message to inactive participants something like ,"You are still welcome to join us again if your preferences change"... Just to express that the message is not an irreversible decision.
Happy Friday for you all,
El vie., 1 may. 2020 a las 9:28, Mathieu O'Neil (<[email protected]>) escribió:
Thanks Vasilis.
You sent to jopp-ed, so cc-ing to jopp-public.
cheers Mathieu
------------------------------ *From:* JoPP-Editorial <[email protected]> on behalf of Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]> *Sent:* Friday, May 1, 2020 16:47 *Cc:* Editors JoPP <[email protected]> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Editorial] [JoPP-Public] Membership of jopp editorial group
I fully side with Mathieu's proposals.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, 1 May 2020 06:12, Mathieu O'Neil <[email protected]> wrote:
PS. Sorry everyone - this was meant to go to jopp-ed. UGH.
------------------------------
*From:* Mathieu O'Neil *Sent:* Friday, May 1, 2020 13:01 *To:* Journal list <[email protected]> *Cc:* george dafermos <[email protected]> *Subject:* Membership of jopp editorial group
Hi George, all
Since we follow "do-ocratic" principles it seems right to me that George, who is the only person to have expressed support for the evolution of the journal proposal on jopp-public, should formally be invited to join our editors group - all the more so as he edited with Vasilis an issue on policies for the commons and that is part of what we aim to develop.
@George: What do you say?
@Other ed group members: hope this is OK?
We have a process for adding new members to the editorial board: -a board member proposes someone on jopp-public; -he or she briefly introduces themselves and what they intend to contribute;
-if no-one objects, after a week, they are included.
We don't have a system in place for people joining the editors group (team? do we need a different term?). So far it's been done on a one-to-one basis. However since I've known George for a while I am pretty confident he will not mind being approached semi-publicly (hope I was right George - very sorry if I was wrong!).
There is a related issue, common to volunteer projects: people still being included in a group although they have been inactive for a very long time. But, how do we address this? We need to be mindful of people's feelings and approach this in a caring and respectful way.
So could we say something like:
"Dear X, you have not contributed to discussions on jopp-ed for [one, two?] years. This can only mean you are no longer as interested in this activity as you once were. We understand that other priorities have taken over, which is fine. However we think it would be best for the project if we acted on this and you left the ed group, to make room for new members. We thank you for your many past contributions to the project and wish you the very best."
How does everyone feel about this?
cheers, Mathieu
_______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
-- "*La curiosidad es insubordinación en su más pura forma"* - Vladimir Nabokov
*Dafne Calvo * PhD Candidate, University of Valladolid *[email protected] <[email protected]> (PGP <https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x077095145C3D8A88>)* Academia <https://uva-es.academia.edu/DafneCalvo> | Scholar <https://scholar.google.es/citations?user=coEvmEQAAAAJ&hl=es&oi=ao>| ORCID <http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0659-6792>| Twitt*er* <https://twitter.com/DafneCalvo>
*Cartografía de las resistencias digitales - MAPA <https://resistenciasdigitales.ushahidi.io/views/map> <https://resistenciasdigitales.ushahidi.io/views/map> <https://resistenciasdigitales.ushahidi.io/views/map> Grupo de Reflexión y Estudio de la Comunicación Online - **GRECO <http://comdig.blogs.uva.es/> * _______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
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