Problemas reportados por India
posteo aqui dos interesantes mail del care central ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Vikram Sreeram <vikram@sr...> Hello from India 2004-12-02 22:27 Hello, I am a manager with a group of hospitals from Bangalore, India. We recently setup Care2x in our hospital on a demo machine to work out the feasibility. This a great effort by the Care2x developers, we hope to make some contributions in the future. The following are a few preliminary observations that I made: 1. The blood group in the patient registration screen does not include the Rh factor. 2. The calendar in the registration screen is too difficult to use, especially when you need to select a year in the early 20th century. 3. Out-patients need to be admitted in order to request a lab or radiology investigation. This causes a conflict with the systems employed in a majority of hospitals in India, where a patient may just walk in (without being referred by a doctor) just to have his blood sugar checked. 4. The lab report does not have a printable format. 5. It would be nice to have a drop box for title in the patient registration screen. 6. A selection screen similar to that of City/Insurance would be desirable for doctors where necessary. 7. The appointments module does not appear to check for overlapping appointments. It does not display appointments in chronological order. We found that Care2X is greatly usable as it is except for point 3 mentioned above. Regards, Vikram. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Elpidio Latorilla <elpidio@ca...> Re: Hello from India 2004-12-03 03:50 Hello Vikram, welcome to the project. Your feedbacks below are highly appreciated. On Thursday 02 December 2004 22:25, Vikram Sreeram wrote:
Hello,
I am a manager with a group of hospitals from Bangalore, India. We recently setup Care2x in our hospital on a demo machine to work out the feasibility. This a great effort by the Care2x developers, we hope to make some contributions in the future.
The following are a few preliminary observations that I made:
1. The blood group in the patient registration screen does not include the Rh factor.
This has been noted.
2. The calendar in the registration screen is too difficult to use, especially when you need to select a year in the early 20th century.
This has been noted too. A different calendar script is needed. You might try to look the proper one by yourself. Calendar javascripts abound in the internet for free, you will surely find the right one soon.
3. Out-patients need to be admitted in order to request a lab or radiology investigation. This causes a conflict with the systems employed in a majority of hospitals in India, where a patient may just walk in (without being referred by a doctor) just to have his blood sugar checked.
A different workflow and GUI is needed for this.
4. The lab report does not have a printable format.
5. It would be nice to have a drop box for title in the patient registration screen.
6. A selection screen similar to that of City/Insurance would be desirable for doctors where necessary.
7. The appointments module does not appear to check for overlapping appointments. It does not display appointments in chronological order.
All the rest have been noted too. It is now included in the todo list for future releases. Of course, if you can develop it now, it would be much better. Thanks a lot, Elpidio ------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Estimado Alejandro me tome la libertad de traducir como pude, el material que enviaste de la lista de care central, es muy interesante que profesionales que están tan distantes de nuestro País estén observando prácticamente los mismos problemas, esto quiere decir que si los podemos solucionar para nosotros, otros podrán también utilizar estos arreglos. Pregunta; ¿Por que si es tan fácil de ver no se ha solucionado hasta el momento en care central? Muy Buena tu observación Alejandro. Saludos Daniel 1. El grupo sanguíneo en la pantalla paciente del registro no incluye > factor 2. El calendario en la pantalla del registro es demasiado difícil de utilizar, > especialmente cuando usted necesita seleccionar un año en el vigésimo siglo temprano 3. Los pacientes no internados necesitan ser admitidos para solicitar un laboratorio o una radiología, una investigación. Esto causa un conflicto con los sistemas empleados en a > mayoría de los hospitales en la India, en donde un paciente puede apenas caminar adentro (sin > siendo referido por un doctor) apenas para hacer su azúcar de la sangre comprobar. 4. El informe del laboratorio no tiene un formato imprimible. 5. Sería agradable tener una ventana para el título en el paciente > pantalla del registro 6. . Estaría deseable una pantalla de la selección similar a la de City/Insurance 7. El módulo de las citas no aparece comprobar para saber si hay traslados de las citas. No exhibe citas en orden cronológica. Todo el resto se ha observado también. Ahora se incluye en la lista del todo para los lanzamientos futuros. Por supuesto, si usted puede ahora desarrollarlo, estaría mucho mejor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alejandro de Garate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: [Care2x-general] Problemas reportados por India
posteo aqui dos interesantes mail del care central
------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Vikram Sreeram <vikram@sr...> Hello from India 2004-12-02 22:27 Hello,
I am a manager with a group of hospitals from Bangalore, India. We recently setup Care2x in our hospital on a demo machine to work out the feasibility. This a great effort by the Care2x developers, we hope to make some contributions in the future.
The following are a few preliminary observations that I made:
1. The blood group in the patient registration screen does not include the Rh factor.
2. The calendar in the registration screen is too difficult to use, especially when you need to select a year in the early 20th century.
3. Out-patients need to be admitted in order to request a lab or radiology investigation. This causes a conflict with the systems employed in a majority of hospitals in India, where a patient may just walk in (without being referred by a doctor) just to have his blood sugar checked.
4. The lab report does not have a printable format.
5. It would be nice to have a drop box for title in the patient registration screen.
6. A selection screen similar to that of City/Insurance would be desirable for doctors where necessary.
7. The appointments module does not appear to check for overlapping appointments. It does not display appointments in chronological order.
We found that Care2X is greatly usable as it is except for point 3 mentioned above.
Regards,
Vikram.
------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Elpidio Latorilla <elpidio@ca...> Re: Hello from India 2004-12-03 03:50 Hello Vikram,
welcome to the project. Your feedbacks below are highly appreciated.
On Thursday 02 December 2004 22:25, Vikram Sreeram wrote:
Hello,
I am a manager with a group of hospitals from Bangalore, India. We recently setup Care2x in our hospital on a demo machine to work out the feasibility. This a great effort by the Care2x developers, we hope to make some contributions in the future.
The following are a few preliminary observations that I made:
1. The blood group in the patient registration screen does not include the Rh factor.
This has been noted.
2. The calendar in the registration screen is too difficult to use, especially when you need to select a year in the early 20th century.
This has been noted too. A different calendar script is needed. You might try to look the proper one by yourself. Calendar javascripts abound in the internet for free, you will surely find the right one soon.
3. Out-patients need to be admitted in order to request a lab or radiology investigation. This causes a conflict with the systems employed in a majority of hospitals in India, where a patient may just walk in (without being referred by a doctor) just to have his blood sugar checked.
A different workflow and GUI is needed for this.
4. The lab report does not have a printable format.
5. It would be nice to have a drop box for title in the patient registration screen.
6. A selection screen similar to that of City/Insurance would be desirable for doctors where necessary.
7. The appointments module does not appear to check for overlapping appointments. It does not display appointments in chronological order.
All the rest have been noted too. It is now included in the todo list for future releases. Of course, if you can develop it now, it would be much better.
Thanks a lot, Elpidio ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Este mensaje es bilingue: castellano e ingles. Hola a todos. Es muy interesante ver y leer que gente tan distante como los desarrolladores de la India, encuentren practicamente los mismos problemas estructurales y de diseño en el care2x que nosotros hemos encontrado. Leyendo el mail que envio Alejandro sobre los bugs reportados desde India, se me presento una serie de preguntas, alguna de las cuales ya me las habia formulado, otras son nuevas. Las envio a la lista para que las discutamos juntos: 1.- Segun mi modesta opinion de 20 años de hospital e informatica medica, el care2x tiene un diseño estructural erroneo. No coincide con la realidad de los workflow de los hospitales argentinos y estoy seguro que no matchea tampoco con los workflow de los hospitales de latinoamérica. En eso estamos todos de acuerdo, la pregunta es: como se concibio un modelo asi? 2.- estas limitaciones que supone el care2x, son por una cuestion del modelo que siguieron los desarrolladores originales o por limitaciones del lebguaje php? Es decir: el modelo "hospitalario care2x" se concibio asi por error, por omision o por limitacion? 3.- Funcionaria adecuadamente con MySQL en uno de nuestros hospitales gigantes de Argentina, Brasil o Mexico por ejemplo? No existirian problemas tecnicos en el MySQL? No seria mejor utilizar siempre Postgre SQL? 4.- Por ultimo una pregunta a los analistas y programadores de la lista: que se puede aprovechar realmente del care2x actual? Cuanto hay que re-construir del modelo original? Un abrazo. JR Hi, everybody. It is of interest to see how so far people find the same structure and design problems like us in care2x. Reading Alejandro e-mail about Indian developers, I had asked myself many questions: 1.- In my opinion of 20 years of hospital work and medical informatics, the care2x has a design that doesn't match with argentina hospital workflows and requirements. I suppose that care2x design doesn't match with any other Latin American hospital workflows. How did it possible? Why is it so? 2.- The limitations of "care2x hospital model" suposse an error desing, a php language limitation or both? What is the real workflow difference about germany and Latin Am hospitals? These limitations were due to an analisys mistakes? 3.- Could we suposse that MySQL would work properly in any big Brazilian, Argentinian or Mexico hospitals? Would we change to PostgreSQL right now? 4.- What are the parts or modules of care2x really helpfull right now withouth any change? How many changes would we do for match care2x to our hospitals? Regards, JR Alejandro de Garate <[email protected]> wrote: posteo aqui dos interesantes mail del care central ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Vikram Sreeram Hello from India 2004-12-02 22:27 Hello, I am a manager with a group of hospitals from Bangalore, India. We recently setup Care2x in our hospital on a demo machine to work out the feasibility. This a great effort by the Care2x developers, we hope to make some contributions in the future. The following are a few preliminary observations that I made: 1. The blood group in the patient registration screen does not include the Rh factor. 2. The calendar in the registration screen is too difficult to use, especially when you need to select a year in the early 20th century. 3. Out-patients need to be admitted in order to request a lab or radiology investigation. This causes a conflict with the systems employed in a majority of hospitals in India, where a patient may just walk in (without being referred by a doctor) just to have his blood sugar checked. 4. The lab report does not have a printable format. 5. It would be nice to have a drop box for title in the patient registration screen. 6. A selection screen similar to that of City/Insurance would be desirable for doctors where necessary. 7. The appointments module does not appear to check for overlapping appointments. It does not display appointments in chronological order. We found that Care2X is greatly usable as it is except for point 3 mentioned above. Regards, Vikram. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Elpidio Latorilla Re: Hello from India 2004-12-03 03:50 Hello Vikram, welcome to the project. Your feedbacks below are highly appreciated. On Thursday 02 December 2004 22:25, Vikram Sreeram wrote:
Hello,
I am a manager with a group of hospitals from Bangalore, India. We recently setup Care2x in our hospital on a demo machine to work out the feasibility. This a great effort by the Care2x developers, we hope to make some contributions in the future.
The following are a few preliminary observations that I made:
1. The blood group in the patient registration screen does not include the Rh factor.
This has been noted.
2. The calendar in the registration screen is too difficult to use, especially when you need to select a year in the early 20th century.
This has been noted too. A different calendar script is needed. You might try to look the proper one by yourself. Calendar javascripts abound in the internet for free, you will surely find the right one soon.
3. Out-patients need to be admitted in order to request a lab or radiology investigation. This causes a conflict with the systems employed in a majority of hospitals in India, where a patient may just walk in (without being referred by a doctor) just to have his blood sugar checked.
A different workflow and GUI is needed for this.
4. The lab report does not have a printable format.
5. It would be nice to have a drop box for title in the patient registration screen.
6. A selection screen similar to that of City/Insurance would be desirable for doctors where necessary.
7. The appointments module does not appear to check for overlapping appointments. It does not display appointments in chronological order.
All the rest have been noted too. It is now included in the todo list for future releases. Of course, if you can develop it now, it would be much better. Thanks a lot, Elpidio ------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 _______________________________________________ Care2x-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/care2x-general
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