Paul, I just read over the IRC logs, and I see that you didn't permit my earlier message to bdi4emc-help because I mentioned a topic you've forbidden me to discuss.[1] I'll keep this message much shorter, and avoid that topic. If your users want axis, let's find a way to work together so that bad versions of the software aren't placed in your deb repository in the future, and make sure users can (re)build the deb to satisfy their rights under the GPL. If your users don't want axis, then just drop the package. Jeff [1] http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-05-13 search for "disallow" at 14:05:56